April 22, 2026

Celtics, Knicks & Pistons Collapse 😳 + Lakers Survival Mode & NBA Playoff Chaos | Pain Points Ep. 19

Celtics, Knicks & Pistons Collapse 😳 + Lakers Survival Mode & NBA Playoff Chaos | Pain Points Ep. 19

In Episode 19 of Pain Points, the crew dives into the CHAOS unfolding in the NBA Playoffs 🔥 Christopher (C-PAIN) Davis, Bryanna Sompayrac, and Derrick Thompson break down the biggest storylines — and things got REAL. 🏀 In This Episode: 😬 Pistons & Knicks in Trouble? After losing early at home, are the Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks already in danger of early exits? 👑 Lakers Survival Mode Can LeBron James carry the Los Angeles Lakers long enough for Luka to return? 🔥 Nuggets vs Timb...

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In Episode 19 of Pain Points, the crew dives into the CHAOS unfolding in the NBA Playoffs 🔥

Christopher (C-PAIN) Davis, Bryanna Sompayrac, and Derrick Thompson break down the biggest storylines — and things got REAL.

🏀 In This Episode:

😬 Pistons & Knicks in Trouble?
After losing early at home, are the Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks already in danger of early exits?

👑 Lakers Survival Mode
Can LeBron James carry the Los Angeles Lakers long enough for Luka to return?

🔥 Nuggets vs Timberwolves Rivalry
The battle between the Denver Nuggets and Minnesota Timberwolves is becoming must-watch basketball.

😳 Celtics Collapse LIVE?!
While discussing the Boston Celtics, they were literally losing Game 2 at home as a 14.5-point favorite…
Derrick CALLED the loss — and even has the Philadelphia 76ers winning the series 👀

🏈 NFL Draft Preview
With the draft starting tomorrow, we hit the biggest storylines and what to watch.

This episode is full of bold takes, live reactions, and playoff intensity.

👇 Let us know in the comments:
Who’s in trouble… and who’s winning it all?

#PainPoints #NBAPlayoffs #NBATalk #Celtics #Lakers #Knicks #Pistons #76ers #Nuggets #Timberwolves #SportsDebate #BasketballTalk #NFLDraft #PickemPros



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00:00 - Cold Open And Where To Listen

00:54 - Pistons Magic And Cade’s Burden

05:36 - Knicks Hawks And Late Game Decisions

09:36 - Lakers Survival Plan Without Stars

13:11 - Nuggets Wolves Rivalry And Defense

17:18 - Tatum Returns And East Doubts

20:58 - NFL Draft Needs By Team

27:42 - NBA Finals Predictions And Wrap

Cold Open And Where To Listen

SPEAKER_02

I still have Detroit and six, but like it's it's gonna be somebody gotta step up. Somebody has to step up.

SPEAKER_05

You know, they haven't won a home playoff game in since Eminem was out. And this is Derek Thompson from Pick'em Pros. You can catch us on all podcast platforms, including YouTube and now 104.5 WCCG in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Let's go. Pick them up, bro, go, go, go, go, go, pick them, bro.

Pistons Magic And Cade’s Burden

SPEAKER_01

All right, guys, we're here for another episode of three points. We have a lot of interesting topics. We're gonna talk about the NBA finals. So let's start with the Pistons. Are they in trouble right now?

SPEAKER_02

Whew. I mean, I mean, it's looking like it. I mean, again, if Kate is called to do everything and you have no help come playoff time, uh, at least the one thing you have with the Magic is that they have Powell and Franz, and I know that they've been inconsistent with both of them being hurt, but if they are on, you at least have another player that you can run the offense through. I feel like, again, Magic are also a very tough physical team. It's again, it can't just be all Kate. So that's my concern, and that's why I think this series it might go longer than people think. Um, I stope the Pistons will win, but I do think it's gonna go longer due to the fact that like Kate is having to do everything.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, it's tough. I picked the Pistons to win this series. Um, but man, I don't know. They're in they're in big trouble. Big trouble. Uh they could not get a basket when they really needed it. Yeah, uh, Orlando's found something is crazy. They went Bancara went from being, you know, clowned and you know, people are saying he was overrated and everything, and now he's you know really doing his doing his thing. So he's turned around, turned it around. So shout out to him. But um yeah, this is uh they're scary. Um, you know, we've talked before about who's gonna be the pacers for this year, and you know, it Atlanta and um Orlando are fighting to be be this year's Pacers, so I don't know. They're in trouble. Um, I mean, of course, you know, we'll see what happens game two, but I think I I think the Pistons might lose. I I think the Pistons are gonna lose this series. Well um, I think they'll lose this series, and I I said foolishly they were going to the finals, but it's no way in hell they're going to the finals, and I think they're actually gonna lose this series. So yeah, they can't get the offense they need from anybody else. Cade.

unknown

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

There's a lot of hype around Cade, I'll just say that. Wow. Um, and yeah, that's not that that's not gonna cut it. Beef stew, you know, is one-dimensional. I just I just I don't see it. I don't see it. I was I was fooled. Uh that was one of my what that was probably my worst take ever uh in out of these last five years was saying they were they were going to the final. So I'm gonna course correct that right now. That was my big mistake, and uh yeah, I think they're getting they're not getting past Orlando.

SPEAKER_02

Are you a verse gigslinger or are you serious? Like no, I'm I'm dead.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay. I'm dead serious, they're not getting past Orlando. Nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_01

That's a crazy take. I think they will. Um, I mean uh they could be in trouble, but Kate Cunningham, he averages over 20 points per game, so I feel like he could save him a little bit if he works hard, but I feel like one person also shouldn't be doing all the work, so it's hard to say right now, but you know, I think they'll make it past this one at least.

SPEAKER_05

You think it goes seven?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, to be fair, the last time the Magic were in the playoffs, and we're coaching it. The coach of the Cavs was JB Baker, JB Bakerstaff, and they did go seven with the Cavaliers. So I mean, we're a team that was kind of one-dimensional with Donovan Mitchell over there. So it's not like there is enough makings of that happening yet again.

SPEAKER_05

So that is something that's a little how many games does it go, C Fang.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I still have Detroit and six, but like it's it's gonna be somebody gotta step up. Somebody has to step up.

SPEAKER_05

You know, they haven't won a home playoff game in since MM was out.

SPEAKER_02

I did not know that. I did not know that.

Knicks Hawks And Late Game Decisions

SPEAKER_05

Not literally since then, but yeah, um, last year, right? They never won at home. Oh, yeah, no, because many people don't remember okay, because of how they played this year. They lost in the first round and they never won at home. They lost every home game last year. I think they lost in six and lost all three home games. And now here it is, they lose in the first game at home. So no, but yeah, I'm not gonna. This is pain point, so I'm not gonna say, I might uh man. No, they are going down. I hate hey, got the Detroit fam. I hate to say it, but yeah, I think they they should have been like this, Derek. I think it's all right.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna say well, what about the Knicks?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, what about the Knicks?

SPEAKER_02

Knicks and Hawks. I mean, if CJ keeps playing like this, I can't even lie. Okay. Knicks are the they're the Knicks are the better team on paper, but I do feel like the Hawks stealing one, it really I don't want to say the Knicks will be upset because I still I want to see Boston and New York. I that's that has to be the series. I'm going to say next in seven. Next in seven. It's gonna have to be a game back in MSG. I do think CJ, though, it's just because of how CJ is playing and like taking that matchup personally, Jalen Brunson on the defensive end isn't doing the best. And then Carl Anthony Townsend disappearing advertising. I don't really think it's the spot. I also think it's the coaching as well with Mike Brown, because the last couple minutes just didn't make any sense. I don't know why. First off, you get the ball. Why don't you just call a timeout? You leave with a I don't like when coaches leave with a timeout in any sport. Like, I'm sorry, like especially after somebody misses two free throws. Like, just you know, call it. Oh, I thought they did. I thought the dicks had one more.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, they said it it they had it, NBC had a uh made a mistake, so it showed on the screen out they didn't have a timeout.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, but you can't get the bottom. Jalen, you were just like, Mikhail, do it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, I just wasn't he like the only one down there on ready, though. I know, but like the time he was clicking, he didn't really have a choice. There was good defense, and he was the only one down there.

SPEAKER_05

I was definitely thinking about you on that breeze. I know that's your guy.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I love Mikhail Bridges, I'm always gonna defend him. That was not his fault, okay? He was the only one actually down there. He had defenders on him, and the time was clicking. What was he gonna do? Just hold it and not even try.

SPEAKER_02

I respect the attempt.

SPEAKER_01

And it's and it's tied now, it's not like they're losing and it's like zero to two, like up by the Hawks. Like it's one to one.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. So I picked the Knicks to win this in seven. Um, I will say though, this is scarily close to last year with the Pacers. Like having the game one, they go on this fourth quarter run, making miraculous shots. You had your boy doing scissor kick threes last year for the Pacers. Uh, I mean, man, this is just like that. So, man, uh yeah, I'm I'm I'm sticking with Knicks and seven because I knew Hawks was was gonna be a challenge. I'm close to picking the Hawks to just win the series. But um the closest I could go was uh Knicks, just because Hawks have some athletic people, they got some wings, they'll they'll stay in the games, but I think the I don't think the Knicks will pull it out, but they're gonna take them the distance.

SPEAKER_02

My thing is like, at what point with the Knicks is the town level gonna match the whole thing with them, right? With the names, the bench, everything that they have, right? They have one of the best benches in the NBA. They still have Jalen Brunson and Carl Anthony Towns. It's just that Mikhail Bridges and OG Ananobi. And OG like will play fine. Mikhail will play decent, but I'm just saying, with all the names that you have on that team, and y'all have not, you know, gone past the conference finals at this point. That's my frustrating thing with y'all. So, you know, we'll talk later for for why I think there's a certain team that's definitely favored in the east, but like, ugh, that's just my that's my irritation with them. It's like all the names, the new coach, everything this year, and still you're in a dogfight with the Hawks. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, I I thought that the talk about Knicks going to the finals was crazy. I mean, unless if if Tatum never came back okay, I could see it, but nah, that's the Knicks are just not that.

SPEAKER_01

The Lakers. Obviously, Luca's out, but can the Lakers buy time for him to come back?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, shoot, if the Rockets keep playing like that, we absolutely can, y'all. I just need Kevin Durant. Hey, take some time off, brothers. Just take a breather. Let LeBron play points. Hey, take a breather. Austin Reeves might be back during the series, too. Hey, let's take a breather. Listen, I'm not saying we are going, we're not beating the thunder at all. So we're going to buy it up time for Luca to get us to the series of the thunder. Then the thunder are probably gonna probably take us out. That's what's gonna happen. I think we can win the series, but again, the thunder, they're sending us packing. That's what's gonna happen. That's what I feel was gonna happen. Hey, Joe. You weren't saying that last show. Last show. And during practice, which I've never seen KD die for a ball in real life. I'm like, I I see that in years, but like I didn't expect that to happen. So I was like, oh, uh once you get that insider information. I feel like, oh, this kind of makes it a little bit easier to know what's gonna go down. My gosh, man. I'm not switching. I literally said I thought we were going home. It was contingent on Kevin Durant playing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I feel you. I I I feel you on that because I picked the Rockets to win in six. Um, but then as I started really breaking it down, I was like, man, this this will probably be a sweep. But with no KD, that clearly changes everything. So yeah, with him and then they're saying, you know, iffy for tonight and looking at him warming up, he didn't look that good. So now the the the the Lakers win the series at this point. They'll find a way to they'll find a way to win it. Umka and the Rockets just um have no no faith in them at this point. And the fact that they never got a point guard is tragic. So yeah, yeah, LeBron will get LeBron will get a get another pass and get them one more round deeper, but then yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We're getting a little bit more. Like that. I hope you know there's no delusion that Luke is gonna miraculously save us versus the one team that can perfectly play us in every single way.

SPEAKER_05

Oh no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

Because we don't have the big man, we don't have the shooters to defend anybody, and that shade goes to Alexander versus who Austin Reeves or Luca Doncic.

SPEAKER_05

My guys will take care of business, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, this is yeah, I'm surprised you guys are even making it this far. So no doubt.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, you know, hey, it was a good run. It was a good run. That's what I'm gonna call this season. It was a good run. Let's start the farewell tour next year. Next year.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know what? If the Lakers do win this one and they have to play OKC, they'll actually have to play the Suns.

SPEAKER_02

So oh, we're playing the Suns. See, I like our odds if it's the Suns then.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, no, because I like the Suns once they beat OKC. Um, okay, like I'm not worried at all. So not worried.

SPEAKER_03

All right, all right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Lakers are easy to beat for us, it's no problem. So we're about to be the wrong skin and you know, get some free throws, no easy peasy.

Nuggets Wolves Rivalry And Defense

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but again, we're worried about the the monster that has the thunder, right? Let's not look at it. Let's let's just let's just keep keep keep it focused, keep it focused. And again, we could still lose the series if Katie comes back as well. So again, you know what I mean? I think I think you know, we're well, we're in good shape. We're in good shape.

SPEAKER_01

Now we're on the Nuggets and Timberwolves. There's a lot to look at here. So what are your guys' uh thoughts on them playing against each other right now?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, this is easily my favorite rivalry that we got going on with the NBA. And again, Ant and Jokic, it always just brings the best out of each other. I do think, especially both those teams, and then of course, playoff Jamal Murray having his moments and doing his thing. I just whew. The one thing I do enjoy did enjoy about the last game is the fact that they were like, okay, we're just gonna attack the paint. Because it's probably like the first game, because Ant was in a rhythm shooting threes, everybody else is like, okay, we gotta catch up, we gotta keep shooting. Like, literally, just let Dante and Ant, and then Nas shoot in the moments, everybody else just go downhill. And that's why I really enjoyed how that kind of opened everything up for them. Also, Rudy Gobert is playing a lot better on Jokic than he has like in years past. I don't know what's going on with Rudy there during the series, but okay, you're locking in, you're doing your thing. And again, it's not like you can fully contain Jokic, but if you can contain him enough where he's not the biggest threat on around the court, I think that that's gonna keep voting well for them. And then again, the defensive possessions towards the end of that game were just I just ah I was really happy. I was really just happy to see that what that wolves team could be because again, you see, because my the first thing was like, is Ant gonna get help? Because you see him still like walking around, laboring around, and still like he hasn't shot the best. But I think that the team really rallying around and be like, okay, in the nine eight minutes, we're still gonna have like um I think Io and then Julius Randle, and um, I think Bones Highland hit a couple threes as well. Like, that was just so good for that team. So I'm really excited to see what the Wolves are going to do. Um, yeah, so now it's going back to Minnesota, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, game three.

SPEAKER_02

I'm excited. And again, I do like the J McDaniels calling everybody out by name. Be like, hey, y'all aren't good defenders. I was like, Yeah, let's get let's get negative. We need we don't need any of this like rah-rah, buddy, buddy stuff. First and last names didn't even go their nickname, so it's like, oh yeah, no, they can't defend us.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so my team I just can't wait. Can't can't wait till they take Wimby out next round. Those are my temple rules. That's what they do. Can't wait.

SPEAKER_02

That's what you want, Derek.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you have like 500 teams.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I picked up the yes, I do. I I picked them to win in seven.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yep.

SPEAKER_02

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01

See what happens.

SPEAKER_05

That's what they do, yeah. Easily, man. Love, love how they uh came out, um, defended, you know, Gobert, Nas, and playing through the the knee injury, uh, all of that is uh, you know, they they're looking good. They still take only thing about them, man, is just the bad shots they take. Yes. But for them to be able to overcome all those bad shots because of the defense that they play, because of you know how athletic they are, because of all those things, they're able to typically overcome it. They can't overcome that against a team like OKC, but some reason with Denver, they're they're able to do it. Denver, Denver brings the best out of them when it uh, especially when it comes to defense. So yeah, I'm I'm excited to watch uh watch this series and excited to see them take Wimby out next round.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm excited to see it.

SPEAKER_02

If that's true, I think this Wimby hate, man. I don't know how far it's gonna go, but I'm excited to see it. I'm excited to see it.

SPEAKER_05

Yep, yep. And Gobert should have been defensive player of the year. I'll just play it with it.

SPEAKER_02

I was playing with I was like, all right, people just see Webby were like, we're not gonna lay this up, we're gonna actually uh let somebody else figure this out. I can't do this. Let me just stand there. No, we're not gonna type nothing.

Tatum Returns And East Doubts

SPEAKER_01

All right, moving on to Jason Tatum with the Celtics. He's back, so people should be worried, don't you think?

SPEAKER_02

I wouldn't say they are the new title favorites. It's still OKC, but they're definitely coming out the East. I'm not gonna lie. There's no you're not telling me, you're not convincing me any team that is coming out everyone's like, oh well, what about the Cavaliers? We gotta see Donovan Mitchell and James Harden in the second round. Like that's like I'm sorry, I have not seen them get past, I haven't seen them in the conference finals in a minute. Oh, dang. Oh, great, that's great, that's great.

SPEAKER_05

And the point spread was 14 and a half, and it took all I had. And again, it's not a betting show. I wanted to put some money on this so bad. The only reason I didn't was because I can't watch it right now, and so that that would take some of the joy out of it because I'd want to watch it. That's the only reason I didn't put something down on it. Because Boston does this every year in every playoffs. Sometimes it's game one, sometimes it's game two. Well, they have to early on. They have a they're the favorite by some ridiculous amount, and they blow it at home. And I knew it was gonna happen. Oh my gosh, I knew it was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02

So and again, I figure they're having one of their weird live by the three, die by the three nights. That's what I'm thinking's happening right now. It's one of their one, their weird ones where they're like, Oh, we're just gonna keep shooting threes, and that's why they're not gonna make it. Yeah, so who's he? Who's being out the east?

SPEAKER_05

Uh, not them. I take the field. You're taking the field over the Celtics.

SPEAKER_02

I take the field.

SPEAKER_05

I actually, if you watch the show, I actually picked the Sixers to beat the Celtics. But that was, I thought that was based on MB play. So now M B's missed two games. So I gotta I got a little bit of a reprieve there. But if they can win tonight, tie it up one-one, and then in B because Mbi will be back for game three. Oh, Boston's in trouble already. Oh my gosh. Oh man, they're gonna be in the Greek freak uh sweepstakes. Better get the freak.

SPEAKER_02

Boston or Philly. Said they were in the Greek freak sweepstakes. Was it Boston or Philly? That's what I was confused on.

SPEAKER_05

Boston.

SPEAKER_02

Boston when they lose. No, no, man.

SPEAKER_05

Boston when they lose, yeah. They'll be in the free.

SPEAKER_02

They got too much. You got 600 mil tied to two people. How are you gonna be honest? Just trade them.

SPEAKER_05

Jalen Brown, they're not trading Precious Tatum.

SPEAKER_02

All right, we're we're gonna trade it. Let's go to the next topic. All right, all right, all right. Next topic. Next topic. You guys are funny.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not gonna stand here and just listen to you guys go back.

SPEAKER_02

Freak is the MVP. I'd be freaking my gosh. Who's gonna put a title together if they been to war so many times? Like, no, are they gonna win it?

SPEAKER_05

They lost to the Knicks last year because Tatum got hurt. No, no, come on, Bree. Uh-uh. Nope. Nope. Series was over. Series was over. They beat him with Tatum.

SPEAKER_02

Series was over, but now I know that. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

He tore his Achilles as they were going down 3-1, 3-0, something like that. But Knicks were winning that third game.

SPEAKER_02

Nope. All right. All right.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, let's move on to our last topic. We're gonna move on to the NFL. Our favorite times. Draft is on Thursday, 5 p.m. Mountain Stinker Time.

SPEAKER_04

That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So behind on my time.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I think it's starting to on the EST. But anyway, real quick, Bree, what do y'all need? And don't say everything too fast.

SPEAKER_01

But I was actually gonna say everything. Well, we need a quarterback, we need a wide receiver, we need offensive line, we need defensive line, we need running wide receivers, running backs, safeties, um, tight ends, literally everything. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

We have the best tight end in the whole year.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So we don't need a tight end, okay. Correct. But they got the third pick. So they have the third pick. They Ty Simpson's training with them until draft day right now. Um He him and Fernando Mendoza are the only draft prospects for quarterback, obviously, in the in the draft class. But I think, excuse me, but a lot of people think that they're gonna get Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame, who's the running back. Yeah, we have James Connor too. So yeah. So we'll see. I mean, honestly, I'd rather get our quarterback Ty Simpson. Um, or they could just trade away their third pick and then they can get more picks. But I don't know. I think they should stick with their third pick because you guys need something, someone good. Like Marvin Harrison, great pick, but you guys don't have anyone to help him, you know. Like our quarterback situation has been terrible. Um, like how's he just supposed to get the ball? He doesn't, and then obviously he dropped it until he lost his confidence. So, you know. And we got quarterbacks though. Like we got Will Johnson, he's from Go Blue. Um, I mean, like, we're pretty good on certain aspects of the team, but I mean, they gotta do something. We need a quarterback, um, offensive lineman, which is uh obviously the most important part if you have a quarterback, right? So it's just a waiting and seeing what they're gonna do because if they get Ty Simpson, obviously they're not gonna get Jeremiah Love. So and he's a great running back, him and James Connor, whoo.

SPEAKER_02

Nice, but uh I think you need to figure out that position because we saw what happened with the Raiders last year and them getting a running back high, but them not having the offensive line and requisite talent. And definitely still had a good decent season behind that terrible offensive line. So, you know what I mean? I think it could be a little bit better. But as far as Panthers, real quick, linebacker tight end. Just forgive me, this is either one more linebacker or a tight end. That's it. We're listening I'm fine with our offensive line. We can get that a little bit later, get another tackle just in case Icky gets hurt, you know. But again, corners, I'm fine. Receivers, get get one more in a later round, probably a second or third, because Legat's just gotta Legat's gotta take a step back. Sorry, it's Ted and Jalen Coker's team. But yeah, me linebacker tight end personally. If I can get a safety, if I can get the guy from Oregon, you know, Tienerman, you know, let's not let's play the Philadelphia Eagles mantra, if you know what I mean. That's that's I would not mind that. I wouldn't want to, yeah. Say Derek got it, yeah. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. I man, I just forget the draft, man. I just want the cowboys to get Max Crosby. Just make a make a make a draft day trade, do something. Just get get Max Crosby in Dallas, man. I just I just want to see it. I just want to see it. That's all. Man, and I just for entertainment purposes, I want them to um sign uh the the receiver. Um yeah, I just want them to do that. I know salary cap-wise is probably not the best move, but uh I love the the duo that they had with uh with C D. Um and uh gosh, but he's I'm drawing a blank on my name. Yeah, Pickens. Sorry, Pickens. I got a picking shirt, can't remember.

SPEAKER_02

Dallas will always drag this out where they'll be like, oh, we're not gonna franchise. We can't obviously like franchise tag you or pay you right before you work, and then he's gotta get like almost near James Sun money based on the season he had last year. It's like no, it's like Dallas just be waiting too long to pay their people, and then when they don't pay the people, it's like uh the whole thing.

SPEAKER_05

But you you you can't pay two receivers top dollar with long-term contract, like no, that's what the Bengals are doing, and that's why they're in the situation that they're in.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_05

So the Cowboys can so if they pay, if the Cowboys can just if they can franchise him, which I think they've done, but keep him there, like don't sign him to a long term, but somehow keep them motivated to just ball out this year. I just need him one more year, yeah. And I I think the way that they do that is by getting Max Crosby because it'll be so much buzz around the team. He's gonna want to ball out, he's still gonna be getting great money for this season by be by being franchised. I mean, shoot, it'll get a whole lot. So if they could just keep him on there one year without investing long term, and then maybe draft a receiver, get you know, someone else to to tire um to um to be a tandem with uh CD, that'll be a better way. Someone that's not making as much money, that'll be a better way to to do that. So yeah, that's that's what I personally want to see. Um, you know, Panthers, hey, they'll get now. I'm they'll they'll probably get the the tight end out there.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not sure that's yeah, I just that's that's all I need. Like, that's all I need. I'm cool for the rest of the night. I just I'm tired of not having a good tight end, man. We just got blockers, that's all we got. Blockers, and they can catch all occasions.

SPEAKER_05

That's crazy, yeah. Yeah, and again, I still say Legat should be a tight end. Like, he's blocking.

NBA Finals Predictions And Wrap

SPEAKER_02

No, he can go block. Sadiq, go run rounds. That's listen. Um I'm cool off the same really got experiment. I'm cool. Jalen Cooker again, outperformed by his un by the undrafted dude in his class. And we traded up together in the first round, and he got outperformed. It was cooking the Rams secondary. We're the reasons why the Rams got two corners. That's how good Jalen Coker played. So, yeah, again, it's it's been real. It's real, it's been fun, it ain't been real fun, bro. You know, let's let's take back to the woods, brother.

SPEAKER_05

We'll be like, we'll be like, oh, and uh, so before we go, I know we're on NFL here, but just to go back, just for the record, who who do each of you have? Uh Bree, let's start with you in the NBA finals. We we've got to get you on record. Who's who's who's playing in the NBA finals, and then you gotta tell us who's winning it.

SPEAKER_01

Do I want to be political or do I want to be real?

SPEAKER_05

You you you you gotta be real on this one, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I know that no one thinks the pistons will, but I think they will. Okay and OKC.

SPEAKER_03

Ah, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

But if I'm delusional, it's the Phoenix Suns.

SPEAKER_05

And and and who, if you're not being delusional, who wins it all?

SPEAKER_01

OKC.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But if I'm being delusional, the Pistons.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, all right, all right. Well, what about you, C Pine?

SPEAKER_02

I got I don't trust, I don't trust the Spurs yet because they're a young team, and I know how much I've talked about Wendy. It's because they need that first young team getting punched in the face moment that before the dynasty starts. That's what happened with Warriors. That's what happened with OKC with the Maver series a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_01

That would have happened with the Suns if they didn't treat everyone away.

SPEAKER_02

Precisely. So I think it's gonna be Celtics Thunder. Got Thunder and Six though. I got Thunder and Six. Like, I think Celtics Thunder would be the best possible matchup. We finally get another mark, at least a marquee matchup between again. Is the Celtics Dynasty is this coming back, or is OKC's new one emerging? That's why I think would be the best matchup. So I'd be very excited to see that Celtics Thunder. But Adam Thunder winning in six.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, halftime of the game, sixers up nine. Well, no, no, it's uh early third quarter, sixers up nine right now.

SPEAKER_03

All right, let's do it.

SPEAKER_05

Let's hope April 21st. We'll see how the game shakes out, but yeah, we'll see.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, what about you?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, me, oh already was on record saying pistons uh thunder.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you are the same.

SPEAKER_03

You're getting up there, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But I I do not I do not believe that anymore. So as far as what I've from what I've seen so far, who I think is coming out of the east, because I just don't believe in any of these things.

SPEAKER_02

You pick the field, man.

SPEAKER_05

I know coming out of the east, it'll be the Sixers.

SPEAKER_01

All right, I was gonna say that too.

SPEAKER_05

I was like I don't see what's in Bede, and Embiid will be back just in time. If they can if they can pull out this game two, get embied by game three, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right, we'll see.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we will see thunder.

SPEAKER_02

All right, we will see.

SPEAKER_01

All right, well I just think none of these teams at all that either of us then.

SPEAKER_02

Like oh, yeah, no, the Hawks just make the miracle run, like that would just be CJ would call them is the Easter Conference Finals MVP. Like, that's just the hilarious, the most hilarious.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, this this year, man, it's no telling between Indiana winning the uh college football, yeah, and Seattle Seahawks winning the Super Bowl. Hey, it's it's no telling. I mean, the freaking Orlando Magic might be in the finals for all we know.

SPEAKER_01

They could be I like how you didn't say it was a shock with Michigan winning college basketball.

SPEAKER_05

Nah, no, no, no. Not at all. Yeah, grew up fat five matter of fact. I've got a Michigan wallet now. I got a Michigan wallet thanks to uh th thanks to Michael Sims. Oh, yeah, yeah, but it's her favorite wallet of all time now. Yeah, yeah. And I gotta dust out. I had the um the yellow Jalen Rose uh jersey back in the day. Yeah, that's right. Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It was so nice too.

SPEAKER_05

Love Jalen Rose, yeah, yeah. Yes, I had his jersey and all that. So, yep.

SPEAKER_04

All right, all right, we'll get on out of here. We'll see y'all next time. Uh until then, pick a proof.