April 3, 2026

Has Wemby CAUGHT SGA for MVP?! + Final Four & NFL Draft Debate | Pain Points Ep. 17

In Episode 17 of Pain Points, the crew dives into one of the hottest debates in basketball right now…

🏀 Has Victor Wembanyama actually caught Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in the NBA MVP race?

With Wemby continuing to dominate and SGA still leading one of the top teams in the league, the debate gets REAL.

🔥 In This Episode:

Duke's Debacle & what this means for the future

🏆 NBA MVP Race Debate
Is Wemby closing the gap… or has he already taken over?

🏀 March Madness Final Four Breakdown
We react to the biggest matchups and debate who’s cutting down the nets.

🏈 NFL Draft Talk
Breaking down key storylines, prospects, and what teams might do on draft night.

This episode is packed with strong takes, real debate, and the kind of conversations every sports fan is having right now.

👇 Let us know in the comments:
Who’s YOUR MVP right now?

#NBA #NBATalk #Wembanyama #SGA #MVPDebate #MarchMadness #FinalFour #NFLDraft #SportsDebate #PainPoints #PickemPros

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00:00 - Cold Open And Quick Intro

00:45 - Duke’s Elite Eight Meltdown

06:12 - Coaching Moments And Veteran Leadership

07:58 - SGA Vs Wemby MVP Argument

12:26 - Playoff Upsets And Surprise Teams

19:51 - Final Four Picks Men And Women

24:56 - NFL Draft Targets And QB Patience

30:00 - Cowboys Dreams And 18-Game Season

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Yeah, I understand what he can do on the defensive end, but right now, there is a guy who's the agent of the team that's a one seed.

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And you still see him showing up game in and game out.

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Wendy, I can't have you win an MVP before you get a playoff game.

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I'm sorry.

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Like that's a little, little much for me.

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And I this is Derek Thompson from Pick'em Pros.

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You can catch us on all podcast platforms, including YouTube and now 104.5 WCCG in Fayetteville, North Carolina.

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Let's go.

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Welcome to another episode of Pain Points.

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We're talking about the final form of takeover.

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Some of our dark forces for the NBA playoffs.

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And, you know, a lot of crazy stuff that's happening so far since we've been here.

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Honestly, first thing we got to talk about is Duke's debacle.

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I know we were talking crazy over on the radio show about, you know, Duke making the run with seven players, all this stuff, and then a massive collapse happened in the Elite 8.

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Up 20.

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Yukon got back in the game to do the turnovers.

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And then the worst wonder at the end of the game, where again, you you just think, hey, just inbound the ball correctly, you win the game.

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Yeah.

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Terrible pass.

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Terrible pass.

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Ends up into the hands of a freshman who passes it first, gets it back, didn't make a shot the whole game, nails it, and now it's one of the craziest march moments that we will ever see.

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So, Derek, how was the Thompson out feeling after that dude collapse?

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Man, kind of uh it was wild.

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It didn't compare to last year, though.

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I think last year was much bigger, you know, being Final Four, you know, tasting the championship game.

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That collapse was uh much more, much more devastating than this one.

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Uh this one, you can kind of see it coming, uh, because it was a slow roll, slow roll.

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So, I mean, they're up, you know, 20 at one point.

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You can see throughout the fourth quarter, they're losing control, um, but up enough.

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And then, you know, um at the end looked like they had it.

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All they had to do was hold on to the ball and get foul.

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You know, you had 10 seconds there, and you don't have to advance it.

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But, you know, I can't really, I can't really blame it on at least that particular play on coaching.

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It was just a kid that panicked, you know, uh, is more of what I saw there, freshman that panicked and, you know, should have just, you know, draw the file or did something, did something else.

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But um, yeah, it's just it's not really the same devastation because it wasn't like it was championship game or foul four, it was elite eight.

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And the other thing from a you know, a dupe per perspective is that got a loaded class coming in next year.

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So you know what I'm saying?

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It's not the you know, they got different, they got different kind of different kind of problems, you know.

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It's truly champagne, uh, you know, first class problems of all darn, we didn't get it this time, but we'll we'll be even more loaded next year, and we just have to try to get over the hump then.

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So, you know, it's kind of kind of a different different set.

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Quick side note, but did you see uh Coach Dan in the ref like after the game winner, though, with like him being the eye to eye?

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This is like an actual question I just thought of.

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Would you do you think you should have gotten a tech in that moment?

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Now I get it, I get it.

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You can't like in the game in the heat of the moment, this is the craziest work madness ever.

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Yeah, I get it, but like eye to eye, nose to nose with the referee.

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I was like, bro, ain't no way.

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I mean, nah, I mean, as aggravating as he could be, uh, because he is aggravating, um, nah, nah, I think you know, you don't want the game to be decided on that clearly they were all hype, you know, happy and shocked, they made the shot.

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So nah, nah, I think in I think in that case, you know, you let it ride, let the let the um, you know, epic comeback kind of stand on its own, and you don't want to you don't want to muddy it up, muddy it up from that.

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So nah, nah.

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But I mean, again, on you know, the other show, I was saying, I mean, Mike Sims said you comma win.

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I said it was gonna be tight, and then I was very concerned, and I I man, I really wanted to change my pick.

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Uh, but since I already had them in my bracket, I just stuck with it and I was like, I'm not gonna change it here.

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But I was I was very concerned about that game.

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Uh because I I had them no, I was final four, I had them losing because I thought they would lose.

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Yeah, I thought they Houston would be there, and that's when they would lose.

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So I thought they would come out of the east.

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Um, but did this the St.

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John's game I was concerned about, they should have lost that one.

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And then you had, you know, UConn and UConn, you know, put them to bed.

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Because one thing is you're playing with your food with a 16 seed to begin the tournament, right?

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And then you almost lose to again Rick Patino, who's you know, all the time like one of the best coaches, and then you're now going up against like the coach right now in college basketball.

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I feel like with good teams, there needs to be a not playing with your food aspect, you know.

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That's what UConn like the fact that they like had like a scenario for us, like we gotta win the next four points the rest of this game.

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Like the fact that there is like a strategy that he had for the rest of the game to inspire and galvanize them, that's what that's what I feel like made the difference.

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I'm not saying that Shire is not a great coach, he can't do that as well, but it does like the extra little step Dan put in towards the end definitely helped.

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Yeah, it was just now they were Duke Duke was scared at the end, like even when when Boozer he hit he hit a shot to put them up.

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It was it was the last basket, I think he made.

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And I think you put him up three or something like that, and you know, he kind of went to the crowd and was like celebrating and stuff, but it was a scared celebration.

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I I see that you know what I mean.

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So they were already shook, but no, the the bigger problem is they need some freaking seniors, man.

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Like you can't have all the freshmen and sophomores, you gotta have you gotta have some seniors on the squad.

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They have to, I mean, the one and done thing is cool.

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Get, you know, one of them or whatever, two of them, but you've got to groom your team where you have more of a balance and you've got some juniors and seniors on the team.

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I think if we look at the teams that are winning championships, you look, you know, at the teams that are winning, they've got guys that are more experienced.

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You have that freshman phenom, but you've got to surround them with more seasoned people.

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And until they start doing that, they're not gonna win.

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I mean, I feel like that's been Duke's problem for a minute because again, it's always like star power, star power, and then like the veteran leadership is just not there.

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Like the year where they had RJ and Zion and Trey and Cam Radish, and everybody's like, oh, Duke, like, could Duke be in an NBA team?

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People are legitimately saying that, like, could a 2018 Duke like be in an NBA team, and now they didn't even make it out the Elite A Taco Fall was giving them hell.

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Like, it's like that's always gonna be my thing that I wish more college hands got a hold of, right?

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And that's why Woman's College Grassball is doing so well because they have the years and timelines to develop.

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I feel like although Duke is like, yes, we have a great class, we there needs to be a sit-down move like, look, who can we retain that we can really help us in these key moments?

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Because we weren't, it's a championship standard, it's not a elite eight standard, it's not a just like oh final four, we're just here.

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Yes, you'd like dominating the ACC, but come like come turn up in time.

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I definitely want to see Duke show a little bit more.

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But anyway, we're going to the NBA.

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And honestly, both Wemby and Shay showed out with phenomenal 40-point performances last night.

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Derek, do you think Wemby's overtaking Shay in the MVP discussion, or you think it's ah, I see your face.

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Hold on.

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I already see how this gonna go.

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All right, how you feeling?

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Hell no, man.

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I am so sick of Wemby.

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No, no, he's not.

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He's not not averaging 24 points a game.

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No, I'm sorry.

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No, it is Shay's.

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He's had it, he wrapped it up, he put up 47 last night, hit a game-winning three that got called back.

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You know, no, he's he he secured it.

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And and like my man said, and I love it.

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It's like, no, I'm gonna let my game do the talking.

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So you can sit here and campaign and you know, get more votes that way.

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That's cool.

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But Luca, all these other guys, no, it is SGA's award.

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He's had it.

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Dude is shooting 55.

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He was like 12 of 18 last night.

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55 from the freaking field as a guard, averaging over 30 points for so many years in a row.

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Man, please, man.

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And every and everybody's been out all year too.

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They still didn't have last night, they didn't have J Dub.

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Um, they didn't have J Dub, and they were missing another guy.

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They they had two of the guys out uh last night.

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So, man, nah, man, please.

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This award is over.

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It's SGAs.

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I think it's SGAs as well.

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I do think that the one being Luca Bidal, where people are just like, well, Lucas recent run, and look at the Lakers being a three-seed.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Cool.

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We weren't playing like this all season because we need LeBron to play like prime Aaron Gordon.

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That's what, like, there had to be a marrying period of like LeBron, just chill, let Luke and Austin rock out, right?

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And then just do Mark about all the other contributions.

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So the team's really gelling right now.

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The Spurs have a very talented team, they've also won a lot of games without Wemby.

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I do think that crowning somebody this early without necessarily having a moment, I do think it's like the Drake May thing, where it's like, hey, you're having a phenomenal year, your numbers are great, you are impacting this team.

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However, we need you to be king, king made before you really get to that point.

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You feel me?

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That's my thing.

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Like, because we're in because again, we're in this moment of like, oh well, he looks different, and you see how he is, you see how skilled he is.

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Yes, last night was ridiculous.

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But like, Wemby, and I do think Wemby is really good, he should he should be in consideration.

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Yeah, I understand what he can do on the defensive end, but right now, there is a guy who's the agent of the team that's a one seed and wasn't hurt, and like even when he was hurt, and you saw how they were during those games, and you still see him showing up game in and game out.

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Wemby, I can't have you win an MVP before you get a playoff game.

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I'm sorry, like that's a little much for me.

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And I do think that like some of it has to be earned, you know.

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So I do want Wemby to, you know, I do think again, like the fact that people just see him in the paint, they're like, We're not laying the ball up.

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I get it, I understand how beneficial that is for a team, right?

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But like, do you see what Shay is doing?

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Like, Shay's doing something that is so ridiculous, and you can't just necessarily crowd him before we because they they did that with Jokic, right?

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There was a lot of crowdings before like deep playoff runs and all this stuff because they want like this fresh food thing.

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Shea does listed this year because he is the engine of this offense, and it's actually it's been insane.

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So I do think it's the gap's closer, but Wemby, I need him to win a playoff series, I need them to do a lot more before I'm already saying that he's the best player.

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People are acting like Shay has two or three MVPs.

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Like, dude, he has he has one, he's got one MVP and he's already a champion.

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I mean, shoot, Joker had two and hadn't even made the finals, and so then that's when it started to become fatigue of okay, he needs to get to a finals.

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SGA is already a made man, he's got a freaking championship, but but again, we we act like he's got multiple, and it's it's it's just re ridiculous.

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Yeah, I will say that like we don't even know how they're gonna defend Wendy in the playoffs.

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We don't know what joke joker is going to do if they like ever match up with the Nuggets.

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Like, there's a bunch of there's a bunch I want to see with the Spurs in the playoffs because that's not about a segue too.

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So we're gonna talk about the NBA playoffs real quick, you know, um, who's our surprise team?

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But also I want to talk about what ways you think the top seeds can get upset.

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Because for me, Lakers, honestly, it is Austin Reeves having a bad night.

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My big one.

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Austin Reeves having multiple bad nights, LeBron having to show, LeBron having to be the number two.

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We are there's no way there will be a deep playoff on LeBron.

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LeBron at 40.

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41 is number two.

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My other thing is with the Spurs, they're Dylan Harper and Stefan Castle are the lights bright.

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That's my concern.

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That's a second year and first year.

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I have no idea how that's gonna go in the playoffs.

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Because I've seen this story multiple times with young players in the playoffs.

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I understand what that Wendy's intensity, it can help that out.

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The Nuggets, injuries yet again, and if your Joker has to carry everything, or if they match up with OKC or the Timberwolves, what's gonna happen?

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The Wolves, what's going to happen with Julius Randle and Rudy Gobert?

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Like that's I I pray that the Clippers get that number seven seed, get that number seven seed, and they they they they go against freaking Kawhi and the Clippers.

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In that first round, the way that Darius Darlene has been playing, the way that Tyron Lou has been coaching first off underrated story of the year.

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Shout out to them getting that pick away from OKC because it was getting a little scary, it was getting a little scary, but they after that very poor start, and after the hardened trade, they really turned it off and something.

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And I I was hoping pushes them, honestly, because seeing Kawhi play like this is very motivating.

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So I hope that that goes well.

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But yeah, yeah, that'll be great.

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And then then it'll be interesting if they do get past, you know, Clippers, whoever.

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I mean, Phoenix has the seven, but they're they'll play each other in the play in.

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So if the Clippers can beat Phoenix at home, they would have that uh they would get that seventh spot and go against the Spurs.

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Then if they get past them, you most likely would have Spurs Lakers uh second round.

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And so then that means one of those teams will be gloating because the one one of them is gonna be in the Western Conference finals.

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Yeah, because I'm not gonna lie, that is the full situation of like we're gonna, it's gonna like that's a six-seven game series where we're it's just gonna feel like we're beating up on each other until OKC is just like haha, and then like that's my concern with that run, because like OKC if they're dealing with the Wolves or Nuggets, though, those are my matchups for them.

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Because anytime I play the Wolves or Nuggets, it's it's it's always that's what they would face in the second round.

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It would be one of them.

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So as it stands right now, wolves nuggets would play each other in the first freaking round, and so then the winner that would the winner that would play OKC.

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So hopefully, so if if if the Clippers can go in Phoenix and beat them in the play-in, then Phoenix would have that eighth spot.

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Well, then if they would have to beat either Portland or Golden State, but one of those teams would be eighth.

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So OKC would be facing one of those, that would be a lighter matchup, but then that second round, that second round is gonna be a beast.

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Um, and then they would uh have to face you know winner of um Spurs Lakers if if they get past the the Clippers, because I don't know.

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I think I think Clippers got one good round in them.

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The other thing is it we forget about the Anthony Edwards of it all.

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Like the man has made the two straight cuts, like we we forget that ant come playoff time, puts on a show.

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That's what actually, you know what?

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I'm excited for that.

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That's where I'm at.

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Because I understand how we get about Julius Randall's inconsistency, and Bones Highland has been a great pickup for the Wolves.

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So that's that's what I just mmm if Ant manages to make this run and then go against the Celtics and wins, like that's that would be the best story to come out with.

00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:39.919
That would be crazy.

00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:49.039
He would be the forgotten one because everybody's talking about divorce Luca, Wemby being MVP, you know, Shea doing his thing, Yoke Chasey getting be back.

00:16:49.360 --> 00:17:03.440
If Ant can make this like this run for the finals, I'm yeah, and then and then in the East, again, Boston and the Knicks, so you know, they gotta worry about Atlanta and Philly.

00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.799
Atlanta and Philly sitting in that sixth and seventh spot.

00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:13.119
Philly gonna fit Philly gonna have everybody back full strength as it stands right now.

00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:20.319
If it's Philly, Boston, and Philly got everybody back, I don't know.

00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:23.519
I don't know.

00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:29.440
Listen, I've seen Jason Tatum drop 50 versus mine.

00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:30.480
I get it.

00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:32.640
I've seen Jason Tatum drop 50 versus them.

00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.920
And again, Paul George is Paul George.

00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:39.680
Okay, we'll see.

00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:40.160
We'll see.

00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:44.079
I'll just say it's a dicey series, it's a scarier series than people may think.

00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:45.440
That's what I will say.

00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:54.000
I'm not going to count out the Celtics because they are my they're my pick to go out of the East in the finals, but I'm not gonna lie to that because it gets spooky.

00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:54.480
Wow.

00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:59.359
So you're you're saying Philly, are you saying an upset or are you saying just just Philly?

00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:01.359
Like Philly, it's scary.

00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:02.960
Philly, period.

00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:05.440
I mean, Philly against anybody.

00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:12.400
You get in B back, you got Maxie, you've got um my guy out of Baylor, Edgecombe, yeah.

00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.559
Yeah, Edgecomb, uh, you know, yeah, man.

00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:26.880
Paul George, I yeah, Philly is I've been saying all year, Philly, Philly's a scary team in in these playoffs, man.

00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.960
So they you know, Nick Nurse can coach.

00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:32.480
That's that's a scary team.

00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.720
And now I add Atlanta to that.

00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:39.200
Um, with Kaminga, Kaminga got a whole lot to prove and play for, man.

00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:40.480
Shoot, man.

00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:43.279
Yeah, now Alexander Walker up there.

00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:45.440
I I I could see it.

00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.880
I mean, right now they're in the sixth spot, the Knicks are in the third spot.

00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.559
I could definitely see Atlanta beating the Knicks for sure.

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Man, Atlanta and the Knicks, I just my thing with the Knicks, and you know we've talked about this at Nauseum on the show.

00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.519
Cat is in year 12.

00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:05.359
We already know who he is.

00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:09.759
Like, it's gonna be two crazy fouls, he's either gonna have a phenomenal playoff game or just appear.

00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:10.960
Jalen Brunson's gonna do well.

00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.079
They have such a good bench, they have such a good team.

00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.960
It really is can they play up to their potential?

00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:21.119
Because this is put up or shut up time.

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Now that Detroit is hurt, it's really should just be y'all in Boston, realistically, with the amount of talent that you have.

00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.319
But can everybody play up to part at the same time?

00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:35.279
And we've seen playoff playoff series after playoff series that that just simply hasn't happened.

00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:39.599
So I hope it does, but I'm very I'm a little weary, I'm very scared.

00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:40.960
I'm very scared about the Hawks here.

00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:41.359
Yeah.

00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:42.960
All right.

00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:45.920
So I'll say that's a good surprise team.

00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.240
The Hawks and Philly, yeah, those are great surprises.

00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:50.640
All right.

00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:54.079
So this weekend, final four picks.

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You know, you had Arizona going to the championship.

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To the championship.

00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:01.920
Okay, cool.

00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:07.119
So you're so good with because me and Diego our brackets are oh, it was it was a bad, bad time.

00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.039
Yeah, uh, because see, they would play Michigan.

00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:17.519
I think they play Michigan Saturday night, and then you have Illinois and Yukon in the other one.

00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:21.680
So yeah, yeah, I'd have um Illinois.

00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:23.759
Illinois.

00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:25.519
I I what's that?

00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.519
Because a home state, you you go in Illinois?

00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:29.440
That's what that's why I was feeling yeah.

00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:31.599
I'm I'm definitely going Illinois over Yukon.

00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:33.200
We got to get Hurley out.

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I'm I'm so sick of him.

00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:36.640
Get him out, please.

00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:42.400
Um, because then it's just gonna all the talk about him being the best coach ever is gonna ratchet up even more.

00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.079
So I don't feel like hearing that.

00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:49.839
So get getting him up out of there, have the hometown team be in there.

00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:52.240
It it would be cool for me.

00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:54.079
And again, I'm not a big fan.

00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:57.599
I mean, Big Ten basketball is not the most fun to watch.

00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:03.759
So, but I'm a Michigan guy, I like, I mean, grew up, you know, watching Michigan and whatnot.

00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.920
So really, I I'd say just no Yukon for me.

00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:15.599
I mean, hey, give me Illinois, Michigan, give me Illinois, um, Arizona, anybody with Yukon.

00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:18.079
Yeah, pretty much anybody but Yukon.

00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:19.039
Anybody with UConn.

00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:20.880
Pretty much anybody but Yukon for me.

00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:27.200
I think as far as picking the champ, you know, if I'm making a pick, I I'd pick Arizona.

00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:32.319
Um, but as far as pulling for, I'll probably be I'd be pulling for Michigan for sure.

00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:34.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.039
Um so what what about you?

00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:45.119
Honestly, um the what resilience that you conn showed, I feel like it's gonna be a storybook ending.

00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:55.279
I understand the hating of Hurley, but I do feel like that momentum carrying into the next game is uh it's like one of them team of destiny things.

00:21:55.519 --> 00:22:04.480
And you know, Yukon wants to be the dynasty and all this stuff, it's just It feels like they there there's a coronation moment about to happen.

00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:10.079
And sometimes once you see the basketball god start to move things in a certain way, you just gotta let it happen.

00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:18.720
So that's uh I I don't want to go I do want to see a great final four because we got it's been a great March Madness.

00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:19.599
I'm not gonna lie.

00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:25.200
We gotta I can't pick anybody like UConn.

00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:28.319
I just I think it's the momentum, I think it's the shot.

00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:32.720
I think now it's like now my one thing is don't get hired on supply.

00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.599
Don't think that like, oh, we're gonna just come here and we can do the exact same thing we did versus Duke.

00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:38.319
Absolutely not.

00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:41.359
Handle business, those are the changes to do your thing.

00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:47.359
I just don't know it's a fight, but like, there we go.

00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:48.319
Yeah.

00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:54.400
You do you still have uh on the women's side, you still got South Carolina winning it all?

00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:59.279
Or or are you going you going Yukon and you gotta listen?

00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:00.799
They're getting serious.

00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.200
It's getting Gino's a little serious right now.

00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:03.839
I ain't go live.

00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:08.319
Semifinals.

00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:14.480
You got South Carolina versus Yukon in the other bracket, you have UCLA versus Texas.

00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:21.200
Oh god, Don, please prove me wrong, but I I don't know.

00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:22.480
I don't know, man.

00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.440
I need thought if you'd be wrong because you know I'm poor first.

00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:26.480
You just know what to say.

00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.319
I know I know what to say.

00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:33.039
They're something serious.

00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.039
No bigger Dawn fan than me, man.

00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.400
Yeah, I I would I would have to as far as picking, of course.

00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:47.200
Yeah, I've rooted for Dawn all the way, clearly, but as far as what I think's gonna happen, I I don't see anybody beating UConn.

00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:55.599
Um I said, I've been saying the whole time, the only team I could see having any type of shot against them is UCLA.

00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:06.799
Um, I would have to revise that and pivot on that and say probably the the team that has the best chance of beating them, I would say is Texas.

00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.200
I I would say even over UCLA.

00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:13.359
Texas, Texas just seems to be on the mission uh right now.

00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:16.240
So that's the only team I'd give any kind of shot to.

00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:25.759
So now I'm gonna say it's UConn Texas in in the championship, and Texas gives them all they can handle.

00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:28.799
And I could I could actually see Texas winning it.

00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:30.799
I would actually see Texas doing it.

00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.759
Texas, they they they they seem ready.

00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:38.799
So actually, I'm I'm gonna go ahead and say I'm gonna go on record and say Texas is gonna win the championship.

00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:39.279
Nice.

00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:42.160
Well, you gotta bring out the cowboy hat yet again at Texas.

00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:43.519
Texas does it, yeah.

00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:45.200
Man, we haven't seen them in a minute.

00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:46.640
We haven't seen them in a minute, especially.

00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:50.319
You know, so let's make sure to do that on that.

00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:51.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:52.400
I can I I can see that.

00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:53.519
I can see that.

00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:56.160
All right.

00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:02.640
So, NFL draft, here are my players to watch, the players that I'm excited about.

00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:06.240
Um, as a Panthers fan, King on Sadiq.

00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:07.519
I need the tight end.

00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:08.960
We need a tight end from Oregon.

00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:14.799
I just need as a Panthers fan, we have everything on offense outside of a very good tight end.

00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.599
All of our tight ends are very average to below average.

00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.880
You know, Tommy Trumbull had a moment versus Atlanta.

00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:21.440
That was it.

00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:25.119
That's the only time I've seen them play like that whole season.

00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:31.759
Like now, another thing that we did say that we're getting, we're interested in getting a wide receiver in the first round.

00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.480
So Xavier, real quick.

00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:35.839
I don't think we need one.

00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:42.960
I prefer a tight end or a linebacker because I'm cool with I'm cool with Teton Jalen and getting Jimmy Horn more touches.

00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:45.200
I need a linebacker or a tight end.

00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:46.880
I need one more accident.

00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:48.000
You already have one.

00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.519
You already have a tight end.

00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:50.880
Who we got?

00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:51.839
Legit.

00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:55.839
You already got a tight end.

00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.960
He needs to he needs to he needs to switch to tight end.

00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.279
He he he'd be a very good tight end.

00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:06.079
He need to muscle up, put on a little bit, and be tight end because he is not a receiver.

00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:06.960
Yeah.

00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:08.079
I don't know.

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:16.960
And then I'm hearing about people saying that like Ty Simpson's gonna go to the Cardinals because they're like, and I'm while I do think he's good.

00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:22.240
Is the coaching in Arizona gonna be that good where it's gonna click instantaneously?

00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.000
Because again, you see that division.

00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:27.119
And some people are like, well, you know, divisional games are close.

00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:31.519
The Seahawks, the Niners, and the Rams.

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:35.519
Three of the five best teams in the NFL are all in one division.

00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:35.759
Yeah.

00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.079
Coaching against each other, coaching against y'all.

00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.759
And yes, they have Harrison Jr.

00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:40.720
and Trey McBride.

00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:55.680
They still have a bunch of defensives that have a good big like, yes, they're a good, decent team, but decent isn't good enough in that division where like there's teams that are going to divisionals and conference championships and super bowls and winning Super Bowls.

00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:57.920
Like that's not that's not enough.

00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:02.559
So I do think that like let him grow behind Gardner Mitchell.

00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.839
Sometimes it's okay to sit down and let a quarterback grow.

00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:10.000
Sometimes the quarterback's talent is so immense where you're just like, let him go crazy.

00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.200
Like for Mendoza, I want him to sit down.

00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:18.000
Let this be a smash mouth football team that gets their identity, the trenches.

00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.039
I don't want Mendoza thrown out there with the Raiders yet.

00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.759
I do think that like there's other great players as well.

00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.000
I'm really excited to see where Jeremiah Love lands.

00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:36.400
I just I really want to see if there's gonna be another great running back in a high pick, like a Jameer Gibbs, like a Bijan to continue.

00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:37.599
I'm interested in that.

00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:39.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:39.440 --> 00:28:01.519
That would be the only thing is what running back's gonna come in and you know, star right away and you know, be that guy and save save their team a couple years of um, you know, having to pay uh a high price high price running back, although the running backs don't make anything, so it's hard for me to even say high price because the is it's it's so crazy, man.

00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:05.519
It's like if you pay a running back, I mean you look at even what Cook got in Buffalo.

00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:10.720
Yeah, you know, I don't even know if he broke 12 mil, maybe 10, something like that.

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.039
I was watching like the top 100 runs of the season.

00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.119
James Cook was all over that highlight.

00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:25.119
Like I'm like crazy, and he's making no more than 12 million, and you got the receivers making 40.

00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:27.359
It's crazy.

00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:32.000
Like, it's Buffalo, he's all they like it's him and Josh.

00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.480
Like, that's it's like that's all we got.

00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:36.480
I've only got 12 billion love, like Josh.

00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:39.119
But can you break me off some crazy?

00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:47.839
That's that's crazy, but yeah, no, I'm I'm more um interested in more of the uh vets is what I'm interested.

00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:48.960
Well, well, no, no, no.

00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.480
I'll tell you that there's one the QB Ty Simpson.

00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.559
I I don't see it, I don't see it at all.

00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.480
So I'm curious to how that's gonna unfold.

00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:08.799
I I just can't unsee what I saw in the um in the the um the playoffs for college football.

00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:10.400
Like that easy.

00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:11.920
He was so awful.

00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:13.920