Nov. 14, 2025

LeBron’s New Role With the Lakers? | Jonathan Taylor MVP Buzz | NFL Chaos Week | Pain Points Ep. 8

LeBron’s New Role With the Lakers? | Jonathan Taylor MVP Buzz | NFL Chaos Week | Pain Points Ep. 8

Pain Points Episode 8 is here and it’s PACKED with huge storylines across the NFL and NBA! This week, Christopher “C-Pain” Davis, Bryanna Sompayrac, and Derrick Thompson tackle the hottest topics in sports: 🏀 Is LeBron now the 3rd-best Laker… and can he fit in with the new lineup? The Lakers look different, the rotation is changing, and fans are debating LeBron’s long-term role. We break it all down. 🏈 Jonathan Taylor for MVP? His resurgence has the NFL buzzing. We discuss whether JT can re...

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Season 1

Pain Points Episode 8 is here and it’s PACKED with huge storylines across the NFL and NBA!

This week, Christopher “C-Pain” Davis, Bryanna Sompayrac, and Derrick Thompson tackle the hottest topics in sports:

🏀 Is LeBron now the 3rd-best Laker… and can he fit in with the new lineup?
The Lakers look different, the rotation is changing, and fans are debating LeBron’s long-term role. We break it all down.

🏈 Jonathan Taylor for MVP?
His resurgence has the NFL buzzing. We discuss whether JT can realistically enter the MVP conversation.

😱 The NFL’s biggest upsets of the week
This season is WILD — dominant teams are disappearing, underdogs keep winning, and parity is at an all-time high. We dive into why the NFL is so unpredictable.

🏀 Early NBA surprises
Hot starts, unexpected slumps, new faces emerging — the NBA’s opening weeks have delivered drama.

📊 Fantasy Football update
We wrap up with a fun check-in on our league standings, who’s rising, and who’s in trouble!

👉 Drop your thoughts in the comments!
Which NFL upset shocked you the most? And where do you stand on the LeBron debate?

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00:00 - LeBron’s Role And Lakers’ Path

04:20 - Roster Pieces, Bronny Minutes, And Western Outlook

10:55 - Trade Scenarios And Luka Skepticism

15:05 - Christmas Slates And Rivalries

18:52 - Jonathan Taylor’s MVP Case

23:40 - Stafford, Lamar, And The MVP Ladder

29:10 - Kyler Drop-In And QB Value Rants

33:00 - NFL Upsets: Panthers, Jets, Browns

41:20 - Fan Energy, Culture, And Carolina Frustrations

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All right, guys.

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Welcome back to Pain Points, your go-to favorite sports talk show.

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And LeBron's still putting up numbers, but is the king finally ready to take a backseat in LA?

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Then we'll shift gears to the NFL.

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Jonathan Taylor's been putting up a lot of numbers, but can a running back even win MVP?

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And a lot more on this episode.

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So what do you guys think?

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Is LeBron ready to take that backseat in LA?

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As a Lakers say, the only way we would have checked this year is if he does.

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Because if y'all are seeing the way that Luka Doncic and Austin Reeves are playing, I mean, looking like the best guard duo in the league.

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Like, it's listen, I knew Luca was gonna show up.

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Like after the whole thing with like, oh, he's not healthy, he's this, he's that.

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Listen, every single time Luca's on the floor, he's been killing it.

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Austin Reeves without Luca has been showing up.

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We're we're again, we're in the Western Conference and we're doing this well.

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Now, again, on the defensive end, that's my concern because you know we're like 15th in the league defensively, so that's what I'm kind of concerned at.

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But offensively, I mean, it looks like okay, we're we're wagging, we're a juggernaut.

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So we just LeBron, when you get back, I I don't know, man.

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Like you, if I could get a solid, this might sound crazy.

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19 to 20.

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I know, crazy.

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Give me a solid 19 to 20, about six, seven assists.

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Just a couple stops on the defensive, and I think we will be okay.

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That's what I need.

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And again, I see you shaking your head, Derek, and I know this is as uh a mash LeBron fan, but as a LeBron fan, I know he's been wanting to give the keys to somebody four years.

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He tried to give it to Kyrie in Cleveland, didn't necessarily happen.

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Trying to give it to AD when AD was in LA, didn't happen.

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So now, hey, bro, you're four, you can go off into the sunset, and mind you, you win your faith championship.

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Everybody's gonna push the narratives that you're the greatest basketball player anyway.

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So here's all you gotta do just take a backseat, chill out, just you know, play in spots, let Luca lead the team.

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And everybody's like, well, that's crazy.

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I was like, look, Luca is I'm sorry, and Nico Harrison just got fired today, which I mean chef's kiss.

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Like, that's just a great way to end it.

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Because it's like, oh, we don't even get penalized for this.

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Like, it feels like highway robbery, and I'm so happy right now.

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But yeah, as I'm not gonna lie, the way that Lucas performed this season, the way we perform this season, the way La Ravia and DeAndre Aiden have really shown up.

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Bronny coming in as a good bench piece, which was not solid bench piece.

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He's he's growing, he's developing, he's developing.

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Like anyway, I was saying so.

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I'm just saying, Bronny is being a part of the rotation.

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Has he even played this year?

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Yes, he's a part of the rotation.

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He's like probably like our ninth, ninth or tenth person on the bench.

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Okay.

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I'm sorry, he was in the G League last year, y'all.

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We can't be happy that Bronny's doing at least, you know, coming off.

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He's a part of the bench mob.

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We can't be happy about that.

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No, just me.

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Okay, I'll allow it.

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I'll allow it.

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So I'm just saying, you know, seeing how our our pieces in for you to see, specifically J.

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Laravia and DeAndre Aiden have shown up.

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I'm very excited to see what we can be.

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I mean, again, with the Spurs, I think you know, we still gotta be worried about Wendy, but you know, yeah, does Webby have that experience yet?

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So we are going to see.

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We are going to see.

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But the Suns aren't worried about the Spurs.

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No, not at all.

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Shout out to y'all.

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I know you're at the game.

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So shout out to you, Brie.

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I was there.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, so you know, shout out to the Lakers.

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I really do think that, you know, LeBron has to take that backseat.

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That's the only way we're gonna win the chip.

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That's the way he gets to bow out, gets to bow out, you know, head held high.

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And if there is a bit of a fall off, are we gonna notice?

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Because again, we got Luca cover it, covering for him.

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So what do you think, Derek?

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Wow, um, a whole lot.

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I still can't get over um Brianny being a rotational player, being sent by.

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But he's hey, just because you've played a couple of minutes in the season, doesn't mean you're a rotational player, but but that's all right.

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That's that's coming off the bench.

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What that make you like where's the games?

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But to be a rotational player, I think you got to be top seven, top eight.

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Like you have to play everything.

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Like he looped will or something.

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I'm just saying, Brownie's getting more minutes.

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That's all I was saying.

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Okay, all right, all right.

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Well, um, yeah, nah, he's not gonna, he's not gonna fit in or fit out and be the third best guy on the team.

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That's just not gonna work.

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He's already shown you that by not being there right now.

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So the only way this is gonna work is if they can trade LeBron and find a trade for him.

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Only way it's gonna work.

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Um actually, one of the trades I could see happening, which would be hilarious, would be going to Dallas.

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So I think AD would be a much better fit on the Lakers.

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Um, they could use the size, you know.

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Uh he likes to play four.

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So, you know, you have Aiden to play five.

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LeBron could be in Dallas, be back with Kyrie, um, you know, inject some life into the Mavs and all the you know stuff that they're dealing with right now.

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So I think that would actually be the perfect trade.

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But if LeBron is on that team and is get get your popcorn ready and watch the watch the drama uh unfold, there's no way they go anywhere with LeBron and Luca together.

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Um, yeah, I just don't don't see that at all.

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Still not sold on Luca.

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Um, skinny Luca, still slow as ever.

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Um, I'm not impressed by anything.

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Man, what do you want him to do?

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Regular season in the NBA.

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It's it's it's like our fantasy football.

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Like I said, wake me when the playoffs come.

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I'm I'm not impressed by anything that that he's doing right now.

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It's I don't have games, he's averaging 40.

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He's listening before.

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Nobody's playing.

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Who's playing defense?

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Who's even trying at this point?

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Like it's it's it's pretty sad what what's happening in the NBA right now, in my opinion.

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Um, so I think the only way they make it work is if they have a great trade that benefits both parties, and then I could see some some things developing there, but man, I I hope they keep them because I I just want to kind of see the show.

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It's gonna be fun to watch.

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See, see the drama night tonight.

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I cannot wait.

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Oh my goodness, Christmas is gonna be that's gonna be uh great.

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If he comes back, that's gonna be so fun to watch.

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I'm because did do the Lakers even play Christmas?

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We do we always we always play Christmas.

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Uh uh, don't do that.

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Wait, listen, we still made the playoffs.

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We still the Lakers.

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I wasn't sure.

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What?

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Oh no, wasn't sure they kind of got doing it early last year, so yeah, I didn't know if they were still in the Christmas rotation.

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We play Houston.

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Oh, dang, we play Houston.

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Ah, be the old KD.

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Uh old man bowl.

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Okay.

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The unction as it's referred to.

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Yeah, the uncle, yes, exactly.

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Yeah.

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Then Gabe Bowl.

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Let's switch the gears to the NFL.

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Well, I gotta lay out Jonathan Taylor's MVP case for y'all, real quick.

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If we saw that Germany game, you telling me that you're hitting off to your running back in OT through four or five straight plays, knowing that that's your best way of winning a game, knowing that Daniel Jones, you know, had a very shaky game, like the pressure.

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It was getting to him, made that great throw to Tyler Warren.

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But the rest of that drive, they were like, Jonathan Taylor, take us home.

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When have you ever what have you seen that in a recently?

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You know?

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And again, last year with Saquon.

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But again, with Saquon, however, should he have also I really think that people need to stop when it comes to great running back seasons, and it's like it's historical.

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Why is it always a quarterback award for MVP?

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That's my issue.

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Because if we saw literally, we saw the how valuable Saquon was to that team, because the Chiefs' entire game plan in the Super Bowl was like, we can't let this guy cook, we gotta take him out of the game.

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No matter like, we if you're my thing is like if you're valuable to your team, right?

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You're the whole game plan has to be like, we have to stop you.

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There is nobody else we have to worry about.

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The fact that they're like, we can't worry about Daniel Jones right now, we have to worry about you, and they still can stop him.

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The fact that he has 17 touchdowns, the fact that he's already has a thousand yards already in like what nine, ten games, the rest of the season, like you're he is on pace to do stuff that we haven't seen since Ladanian Tomlinson.

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So again, since again, last year was Saquon getting 2,000 yards, but again, the touchdowns, that's the thing.

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It's like he's getting in the paint, he's he's changing games with every big run that he has.

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And I think that Jonathan Taylor, now again, to me personally, it's between Jonathan Taylor and Matthew Stafford.

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Now, everybody talks about Drake May because I'm like, look, Patriots are good, it's just a schedule.

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I'm sorry, Matthew Stafford.

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I literally was sitting here thinking about I was like, look, outside of that block field goal, and what was the other loss that they had?

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Because it was a black field goal to the Eagles, and it was something else.

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Almost loss.

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Yeah, I have to look up to see their other loss.

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They have at least two, right?

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They have two losses.

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My thing is this whole the whole past four or five weeks has been out of here, 20 touchdowns, no interceptions, going up, playing in one of the toughest divisions in football.

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Next week versus Seattle is gonna be a huge is gonna determine who basically wins that division.

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So it's like you see what Stafford's doing as well.

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That's where my argument starts.

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It's like Stafford, if we're gonna give it a quick make it a quarterback award, please give it to Matthew Stafford because he's like Twilight Year, you know, this doesn't you don't see this at this old of an age unless it's like Aaron Rodgers or something.

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Yeah, that was literally the last time we've seen a quarterback like in his Twilight Year ball out like this, right?

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And then you got Jonathan Taylor.

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Like he's doing stuff that we haven't seen.

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Like we have to reward historical seasons.

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We can't just keep being like, oh, you know, we gotta give it to the best quarterback who's on the best team.

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No, if you are making NFL history, like you're what you're doing is going to be enshrined in Canton.

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I feel like you should get an award, you should deserve an MVP for that.

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So that's my Jonathan Taylor take.

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Now, again, if you want to give it a quarterback award, please give it to the actual best quarterback in the league who's playing the best football in the league right now, which is Matthew Stafford.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I have no problem with with the running back getting it.

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Uh I have no problem with Jonathan Taylor getting it.

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He's doing his thing, balling out his demand for sure.

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Uh, one of the coldest um touchdown celebrations right now.

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So I love his celebration.

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Um, but it's interesting with Matthew Stafford.

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I'm a Stafford guy.

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Um, got him in my fantasy, you know, league right now that I've already clinched.

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Um yeah, it's interesting because um I haven't heard him in the conversation until like now, this week.

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So it's kind of interesting.

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Like he hasn't been like in the race, and now he's like all the way leading to the front.

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So I need to see another week or two of Stafford doing his thing before I put him at the at the top of the of the list.

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I'd still have Mahomes probably ahead of him right now.

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Um, but um again, the person that's gonna win it up steadfast, it's still gonna be Lamar Jackson.

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Have you seen what's happening in Baltimore?

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I know, I know.

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They're four and five, they're gonna make that run.

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As Lamar Jackson fan, I don't want him to listen.

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The best thing I want is a four-seed run to the Super Bowl if we're doing that.

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Like, I'll I don't need another FVP award.

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I don't need another, like, oh, you see Willamar being to that team.

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I don't need another FvP award.

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They're running the table, they're running the table, he's proven.

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I mean, you saw them without him, you see him with them.

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They're about to run the table, they're gonna win the division.

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They were left for dead, and yeah, I mean, he's yes.

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If we're going by definition, he's obviously the most valuable player to his team, but like we can't keep.

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I don't want that to be like, oh, he's got three MVPs, he brought it to the brick, he flames out of the boat.

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That doesn't matter, and and that's who I predicted to start the season again, steadfast 10 toes down.

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But hey, your boy, you still have hope.

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Joe Burrow, he's they say he's he's coming back.

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He might be back.

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Don't do that.

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Don't do that.

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He might be back.

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That's his study defense, please.

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Eric, yes, Joe Burrow.

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Joe Flacco was putting up the same number.

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Now I don't even want to.

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But same weapons.

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Yeah, well, that's all I'm gonna say.

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That's all I'm gonna say.

00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:43.279
Joe, you great, but uh 40 40-something year old can do your job, but maybe I was maybe I was a little bit hardy on the MVP talk.

00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.639
I'm just saying, just saying we thought Joe Flacco wasn't anything.

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All of a sudden he gets a couple wide receivers like, oh wait, I know how to throw a ball.

00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:57.440
Hey man, it's it's a difference of what a teammate look at look at Matthew Stafford, you know.

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So saying, seeing what what he's doing now, all right.

00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:02.399
Bree knows where I'm going with this.

00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:03.120
I do.

00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:05.360
All right, so Stafford.

00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:10.639
He used to get a lot of hate when he was with the Detroit Lions.

00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.480
Just send him to another team.

00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.799
Now look at him, and they said, Oh, but he's got Megatron, I got Megatron.

00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:21.679
I don't know.

00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.240
He just he reminds me of another quarterback.

00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:25.679
I can't think of who he is.

00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:31.679
He reminds me of another quarterback, similar type of situation, but we might get to that later.

00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.799
But just reminds me of somebody, Leo later, too.

00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:36.320
Just saying, all right.

00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.960
It's good that he went to another team, though, Matthew Stafford.

00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:47.120
I liked him on the lines, but it's good he went to another team because obviously like the coach and everything else in Detroit wasn't very good until Dan Campbell came along.

00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:53.600
Yeah, also, well, we'll talk about that later in the surprises, but um, yeah, not gonna lie.

00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:55.919
I hope you're not talking about Kyler.

00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.000
I feel like he's talking about Kyler as me.

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Definitely is.

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I know, I know.

00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:03.440
He definitely is.

00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:04.960
He's always talking about Kyler.

00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:08.639
Always gotta get off of the cell, babe.

00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:14.879
Oh, actually, we got a we got a uh special announcement, breaking news.

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Kyler's breaking the silence.

00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.799
Hold on, we got breaking news here.

00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:23.279
Actually, Kyler, man, what do you think of the cars getting blown out, man?

00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.759
Man, everybody can't be QB1, man.

00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:26.879
What the yo?

00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:28.639
The Cowboys, you know what I'm saying?

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Brissett was the man last week.

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Dallas make everybody look at QB1.

00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:36.399
They made Rust Florida QB one, now they make Brissett only QB1.

00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.440
As Shaq once said, can't do without me.

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Kobe, tell me how my ass takes.

00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.639
Yeah, you can't do without me.

00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:47.360
Yeah, you can't do it without me.

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Yeah, you can't do without me.

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Okay, that's real.

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Okay, but listen, right.

00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.000
Or does it be the management and new head coach?

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We'll say that.

00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:09.120
Yeah, it's just a lot, but yeah, I can't do it without me.

00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:12.080
Well, I know a team who who can do without their quarterback.

00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:16.559
We will get to that in the let's uh we gotta get to that in a second.

00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:23.679
All right, all right, I had to get that in there.

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An upset.

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I know you had stuff to say, Chris.

00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:36.399
Okay, with the NFL upsets this week, the worst one, and I'm sorry, I know as a Panthers fan, this is crazy.

00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.039
This is you know, ultimate Hobart tank, right?

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You're telling me we can't beat the one in eight Saints, 17 points, and we cannot score.

00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:52.639
Listen, we walked into Lambeau and beat Green Bay, and you're telling me we can't beat the Saints.

00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:53.039
Nope.

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Hey, we made Tyler Show, we fought, we gave Saints fans hope in their quarterback situation the whole season.

00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:01.039
The same thing.

00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:03.759
Oh, I don't know if we got a guy, we gotta go in a draft.

00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:16.880
Oh my god, the fact that we gave a team quarterback hopes is crazy, and now and listen, listen, everybody's gonna say, Oh, you can't blame Bryce, you can't blame Bryce, the offensive line played poorly.

00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:21.839
Their game plan was take out Rico, throw the ball.

00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:24.400
That was their game plan, and guess what?

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He couldn't do it, and then it was the turnovers in the red zone, it was just so many gaps, and then you hear the team talking about like, oh, like we just weren't prepared after practice.

00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.200
We what do you mean you weren't prepared after practice?

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Y'all are five and four, y'all are world leaders.

00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:40.720
That's the thing.

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This is what happens when people ain't familiar with winning because then you get a little too cozy.

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We need a little kick in our tail, and we probably gonna win seven, eight games after this.

00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.079
But dude, we could have been at least closer to the division.

00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.319
You would have been six and four, Tampa lost, we're half a game back.

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And you're gonna be now we're five and five.

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We play Atlanta, who again their defense has been showing up well, and their pass rush has been playing playing well, and they're tired of they had to step their losing streak eventually.

00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:14.319
So we gotta hope that Atlanta isn't gonna want revenge for the 30 for the 30 ball we put on them.

00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.880
So man, that's just that was one of the craziest upsets.

00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:21.839
Also, Jets, Browns, the Jets had a whole fire set.

00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.920
I don't know what the Browns can do at this point.

00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:25.039
I'm not gonna lie.

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Like, Jets sold two of their best players.

00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:35.599
They're like, hey, we we get them out of here, and still managed to win a win, win a game with their quarterback technically only throwing for 12 yards.

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Because if you take away that 54-yard screen pass for Brees Hall, Justin Fields only threw for 12 yards.

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You can't be a guy who throws for 12 yards.

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That's because the Browns, the Browns are being smart.

00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.319
Oh, really smart there.

00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.319
Please say that because they know the season's over and they're tanking.

00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:57.119
The Jets are up there trying to be all oh, yeah, we're gonna show people we can win.

00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:58.079
And okay, great.

00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:01.119
So now you're gonna get a uh a higher draft pick.

00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:01.920
Congratulations.

00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:06.480
Uh, they're gonna do it, they're gonna do the Carolina Panther method with a couple people escape.

00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.240
Exactly, exactly what that was.

00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:11.680
That's exactly what that was.

00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:17.200
So Cleveland's like, wow, okay, so they're dumb enough to actually want to have this game, you can have it.

00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.440
That's exactly what happened with that game.

00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.680
And as far as the Panthers go, yes, that was so predictable.

00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:27.359
Because let me so I I don't know if you fell into this boat, Chris.

00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:31.119
But so did did you watch the game, or were you out out?

00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.359
No, I was watching the game, but I was watching the game.

00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:38.480
Okay, so when you sat down, what were you what where were you thinking when you like got your food?

00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:39.359
Did you have some food?

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Watch the game.

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Well, actually, uh typically watching it at work, but you know that listen, they know what I do.

00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:48.799
So what was your how how how were you feeling?

00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.079
Like, you know, an hour or two before the game?

00:19:52.400 --> 00:20:02.400
The whole hour or two, it's like I think we got I think we got this, but my issue was I feel like we were we were gonna have a mode of like we're smelling ourselves too soon.

00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:08.160
Because again, we're and again, something in my brain is like Bryce always plays weird versus the Saints.

00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:13.200
Yeah, like the only time he's beaten the Saints that I remember is like when we won in Germany, right?

00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:25.839
That was the last time I remember us like beating the Saints and feeling like good about how Bryce played, but like my brain flashbacks, you know, that like was it week one last year where he throws the pick first game of the season?

00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:27.680
That's where my brain was going to.

00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.640
So I was like, We're we should beat this team.

00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:36.480
Then when they score it at 7-7, I'm like, okay, it's about to be a dog fight, you know, we're gonna be okay.

00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:43.200
Yep, yeah, and then it's that then he gets bailed out with that interception they threw to Mario Davis.

00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:46.880
He gets bailed out, and then I'm like, Okay, this is gonna be bad.

00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:48.240
And guess what happened?

00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.519
It was bad, and now we're 500.

00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.839
And again, I blame you, Diego.

00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:59.680
I blame all the Carolina Panthers fans for that game.

00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:05.680
That that was not on the Panthers, that was on y'all because y'all were way too cool for school.

00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:09.279
Because I picked up Diego about a half hour before the game.

00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:10.720
We're driving home.

00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:12.720
I'm like, Yeah, man, game.

00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:13.839
You hype, you hype.

00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:15.519
He's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:17.680
You know, we just gotta take care of business.

00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:19.200
I was like, What?

00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:20.319
What do you mean?

00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.880
You just oh, yeah, yes, I take care of business.

00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:24.319
I was like, Oh, really?

00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.880
So you guys are five and four, right?

00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:28.640
You your hair should be on fire.

00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:31.519
You should be so hyped to get home and watch this game.

00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:35.359
You should be losing your mind to go six and four, right?

00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:40.880
And it just wasn't that then I turned the TV on, stadium's half empty, right?

00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:44.960
The don't have all the the fan fans weren't filling up the stadium.

00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:46.559
The stadium should have been filled to them.

00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.920
It should have been a parade when they came back from Green Bay, right?

00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:57.680
Because they've sucked for so long, and now this was the time for everybody to get hype, show them the love, and that stadium should have been rocked.

00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.559
The the the bank, as y'all want to say, right?

00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:05.519
Bank of America Stadium, and it was a dud, and they came out and played just like it.

00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:19.039
And the snake, the saints snatched their hearts out of their chests, so it was so predictable because the fans had the audacity to sit here and say, Oh, yeah, we're just gonna take care of business, like like they're so above the freaking Saints.

00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:22.160
No, not yet, did not take care of business at all.

00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:31.200
And so, this is actually shout out to Bree and the Arizona Cardinal fans because if it was them, they would have been freaking rocking, you know what I'm saying?

00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:44.079
Because again, we were there for um training camp uh a couple years ago, and the Cardinals were awful, they were like the like the years leading up, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.

00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:45.279
We pulled up there.

00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:48.240
This was free, it was a free event at the stadium.

00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:50.480
Stadium hosts about a hundred thousand people.

00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:58.880
We pull up, and literally, people are running, they are running and sprinting from the parking lot to the gate.

00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:09.359
And me and Diego are sitting here laughing, like, what these are the couple why they running to the gate for training camp on this team to suck so bad.

00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:15.519
But I actually have respect for them because that's how they ride for their team, and that's how Carolina should have been.

00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:17.359
They didn't, that's why y'all lost.

00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:19.440
Yeah, we worry every single game.

00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:21.119
We're not like, oh, we got it.

00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:30.880
No, no, we worry every single game, and that happened to us before when we were at the training camp because we were also like the heck, like what is going on?

00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:34.960
We are fair, we are fair weather fans.

00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:42.960
Now, I'm not gonna lie, I'm going to sound fair weather as heck because you know now again, we haven't talked about the Panthers all season.

00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:50.400
Since because Rico Down's been performing so well, we he's been able to hide the fact that Bryce hasn't really, you know, grown as much, right?

00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:54.400
Bryce has been just been making the key throw we need to win games, right?

00:23:55.279 --> 00:24:00.079
Right now, I'm like, hey man, I gave y'all year three to year three.

00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.640
You got the rest of the season to show me something, bro.

00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.880
You gotta show me that we can win a game without Rico being Rico.

00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:15.440
That has that's the only way that I'm gonna feel confident of him getting that fifth-year option, of him continuing to be that with it with our team.

00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.480
And I'm not even saying give him a fifth-year option, but who can we trade for?

00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:19.519
Matt Jones?

00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:23.119
That's that's all we got, and the 49ers are gonna want to keep him low-key.

00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:33.440
They're gonna be like, hey, bro, like also, brock pretty how how we know when Joe Burrow gonna be back, and he had he had surgery on Turf Town, but Brock Burdy.

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.240
I ain't gonna say too much of this comment.

00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:40.799
Brock is the weirdest I'm just gonna say weirdest injury, dude.

00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:42.079
I've ever seen.

00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:46.160
Like, you know, the what was it when they lost to the Eagles?

00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:50.319
It was his elbow or something, had the elbow shoulder, whatever it was.

00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:54.960
I don't know what injury it was, but couldn't lift his you know, arm above his head, right?

00:24:55.039 --> 00:25:12.240
Couldn't couldn't throw a tennis ball five yards, so couldn't come back in the game, standing there on the sideline, all right, and then couldn't lift it, couldn't lift it, couldn't lift it, couldn't lift it, and then all of a sudden training camp came and just throwing the ball like he was before.

00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:13.440
Um, so I don't know.

00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:19.519
He just has some very interesting, mysterious injuries for sure throughout his career.

00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:23.039
Well, if you all want a new quarterback, like Derek says, he needs a new team.

00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:27.039
You all can take Kyler at least okay.

00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.039
I'll take a short quarterback in OD.

00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:33.039
Diego will take Kyler in Carolina in a second.

00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:33.920
Yes.

00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:36.960
Oh, he's the one, yeah.

00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.359
Definitely Kyler because he's high on Kyler.

00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:41.119
He's a uh Kyler's top 10.

00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.160
Oh, yeah, he would take Kyler in Carolina in a second.

00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:45.680
Some reason.

00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:51.599
Do you imagine Kyler?

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.960
We do good there, Mac and them and Rico.

00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:55.920
Oh my gosh, man.

00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:00.720
Yeah, give us Bryce.

00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:02.319
Stop it, stop it.

00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:04.079
Nah, Bru.

00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:05.039
You want him?

00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:07.599
You don't want these problems.

00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:08.720
You don't want these problems.

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:09.359
I don't know.

00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.720
After seven seconds of Kyler, I'm telling you, it's bad.

00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:13.599
It's bad.

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:17.039
We just need to win the Cardinals, and then we'll be fine.

00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:17.920
The lows.

00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.599
No quarterback 2026.

00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:20.319
Don't worry, guys.

00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:21.599
We'll find someone.

00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:23.680
True, it's true.

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.079
I know it's just the lows, man.

00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:27.440
The lows are low.

00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:28.960
They're low, man.

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.000
Maybe what Teddy Bridgewater, Kyle Allen back, man.

00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:35.039
This isn't good.

00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:36.160
Yeah.

00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:37.519
That's rough.

00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:38.480
Yeah.

00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:39.599
PJ Walker.

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.000
At least I know PJ Walker can throw the ball, deep.

00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:42.640
Come on.

00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:45.519
And Baker might be available.

00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:47.200
Stop troubling me.

00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:49.759
Please don't do this.

00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.000
I'm stressed about this T, bro.

00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.480
Go to the next topic, man.

00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:57.440
All right.

00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:59.039
What's moving on?

00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:05.200
So, NBA guys, what are your woe moments in the NBA that you did not suspect?

00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:15.119
Honestly, my biggest surprise outside of Lakers, you know, doing what we're doing.

00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:23.680
I think seeing Wemby really start to shine right now and like really coming to his own, that feels different.

00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:30.079
Seeing the Spurs, the Spurs, it really is Wemby and a bunch of shooters, and it somehow it's working.

00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:41.119
I didn't think it would work like this, but they just honestly, my thing with them is they just have to get the ball to him easier, like make it easier on them to get a ball, to get him the ball.

00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.519
So I hope DeAaron Fox can help out with that because he's coming back and been healthy.

00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.000
So I hope that that's gonna help them out.

00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:57.920
The Rockets, again, Katie's, you know, doing basically a higher gun at this point, but Alper and Shangun is playing so so well right now.

00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.839
So really happy about how the young Rockets players are developing.

00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:03.759
Um, the Pistons.

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.640
I thought they would have a big season due to the fact that the Celtics aren't healthy this year.

00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:15.599
But Cade, hey, now people are out toward to be like, oh, Cade like had a horrible shooting night last night, all this stuff.

00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:22.960
And I was like, hey, I don't the one and that's the one thing I always want to ask is like everybody talks about efficiency.

00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:28.960
Sometimes he didn't have anybody else that was healthy on the team, and it was just it had to be just him.

00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:38.079
I think that like some people are like, oh, like you have to be efficient with your scoring, and I get it, but if you're the only guy, you have sometimes you have to go out on your sword.

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:45.599
Like, that's now again, it's a regular season game, but like we've seen at least we saw like in the playoffs game seven with Shay.

00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:52.160
He shot horribly in that game seven, but you knew, hey, I have to carry us or else we're gonna lose.

00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:57.200
So the fact that he's playing with that much intensity, you see Jalen Duran's development as well.

00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:01.039
I really like and feel like the Pistons can have a really strong year this year.

00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:03.599
So that's another thing I've been excited to see.

00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:11.359
But yeah, the West is still the West, you know, the East, uh as I call it, the money laundering conference.

00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.839
Um, because the Bills, the the not the Bills, the Bulls are somehow good.

00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.480
So um Josh Giddy, I guess.

00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:19.039
I don't know.

00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.279
But uh I don't know, man.

00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.799
It's just you know, I feel like we're gonna have the same story.

00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.559
You know, there's gonna be two teams that are gonna be head and shoulders in the East.

00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.240
Also, oh, the Bucks sneak being better than we thought.

00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:35.920
I thought they'd be a lot worse.

00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.960
Um, you know, Ryan Hollins and Giannis, you know, they're they're doing their thing.

00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.039
So Giannis is always gonna do his thing.

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:48.079
But yeah, the Bucs be better than what I thought, but the East, I'm not, but so I'm not worried.

00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.240
Whoever wins the West is probably gonna win the whole thing.

00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.519
I'm not, I'm not sweating the East.

00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:04.400
They could, you never know.

00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:05.200
You never know.

00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:10.160
You know, it is broke the franchise record 10 threes in a row, 42 points.

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:10.880
Watch out.

00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:11.359
I don't know.

00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:13.759
That's a dude quick.

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:20.720
One of those players you hate to you love what he's talking to, hate it when he's not.

00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.240
But yeah, try to bring him up.

00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:29.039
Yeah, I'd say um, you know, the magic, not even being in the play-in at this point.

00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:37.599
Um, a lot of folks had them at the top coming into this season, so they're definitely a surprise on the on the bad side uh this year.

00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:39.839
You know, Pistons being number one right now.

00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.680
Bulls, yeah, they started off 5-0, but they're starting to slide.

00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:45.599
So right on cue.

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.079
Um, I do not like their roster at all.

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:53.839
So I think they're gonna end up being in the play-in just like they're in the sixth spot right now.

00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.519
Um, so they're starting to slide.

00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.519
Cleveland starting to win a bit.

00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.960
I think they'll find their rhythm and be up at the top.

00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:08.400
You know, Cleveland, Detroit, Knicks will definitely be, you know, your your top teams going into the um the playoffs.

00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:10.400
Um, one and nine Pacers.

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.480
Wow, they're um looking uh looking looking interesting right now.

00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:19.839
So I mean outside of Howard, they do have other injuries, but like listen.

00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:22.799
Yeah you're gonna say Christmas Pacers.

00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:24.160
We we ain't gotta joke about that.

00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.079
Listen, yeah.

00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.279
I mean, even us.

00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:35.440
I mean, Diego said they'd be 10th, and you know, he's wrong because right now they're 14th.

00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:39.440
So um, yeah, that's that's looking interesting right now.

00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:44.960
Uh Atlanta Hawks, uh, we predicted they'd be eighth, and uh they're eighth right now.

00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:55.119
So did not see what all the hoopla was about the Atlanta Hawks and this amazing roster that they supposedly had, and the only person I can name on the roster is Trey.

00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.519
So that was that was just really interesting there.

00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:58.799
Never saw that.

00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.160
Um, but uh OKC Thunder, man.

00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:22.240
Yo, 10 and 1, number one overall, and they still don't have J Dub doing all of that without J Dub, with the you know, target on their back of being the champs, everyone giving their best shot, and they're still beating everybody without J Dub, and then Chet's been on a few games.

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:46.960
So SGA literally carrying it, but no love, nobody wants to say best player in the league is still um, you know, Joker or you know, whomever, but nobody wants to say SGA, and uh, I think it's gonna take him winning a couple chips uh for for for him to really, really get the respect.

00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:51.279
It's crazy to be doing all that he's doing, and I say he's still underrated.

00:32:51.440 --> 00:33:10.240
Uh I think it's I think it's because like during the ship in like late 2010s to 2020s, like we start to see bigs like Giannis and Jokic and Embiid really like take their name as the best, and we started to underrate like having like great guards.

00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.160
Um Shea's one of one.

00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:18.720
And I think that even as a fan of Luca, what Shay can do on the defensive end?

00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:19.680
I mean, come on, bro.

00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:24.480
Like, like he's one of the better defensive guards in the league, and he's gonna give you 30.

00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.119
Everybody's gonna talk about but the free throws, listen.

00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.839
It I feel like that's younger fans because I saw probably James Harden when I was in high school.

00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:37.599
You saw Kobe and D-Wade, so you've seen you've seen some true people who've been foul baiters, right?

00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:47.359
But see James Harden in Houston, yeah, like Josh Hart, there's a look at that old clip of Josh Hart playing with his hands behind his back to try to guard him.

00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:48.400
Yeah, nothing compares.

00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:52.480
Nothing compares to that.

00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.000
Nothing compares to that.

00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.920
That was as far as you could take it.

00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:01.599
So I I'll I really don't uh I really don't like that narrative that is put on shape.

00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:07.200
This is like one, it's a part of the game because one it slows the game down, two helps your team get a breath of three.

00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:12.159
It's easy points for you, and the whole point is to get more buckets to the other team.

00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.119
So if that's a skill you have, why not employ it?

00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:16.880
Like, I don't know.

00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:18.400
I just I I don't get it.

00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.559
I just I really don't get it now again.

00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:22.800
Now, mind you, I'm an up as a Lakers fan.

00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:23.280
I don't know.

00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.239
Austin Reeves has a better whistle than Lucas sometimes.

00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:27.199
It is very weird.

00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:28.079
I have no idea.

00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:34.960
And Austin Reeves ain't even like on like a little level, but he began to line, so I'm like, hey, you know, shout out to Austin.

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:41.599
So it's like seeing that with my own team, it's like I appreciate that as like a skill because like that's a part of the game.

00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:42.800
So I don't know.

00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.519
I hope that Chase Let's see and the respect he deserves.

00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.840
I mean, yeah, they go back to back though.

00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:49.519
He's always the best in the world.

00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.679
Like, there's there's nothing he can say about it.

00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.239
Yeah, yeah, I think they got a good shot to uh to certainly do that.

00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.159
And then got to give some love to Phoenix um A-spot right now.

00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:08.079
But again, with you know the roster and whatnot, a lot of folks didn't even have them in the the top 10.

00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.239
So playing above 500 ball, book is doing his thing.

00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.679
Um, lights out, and yeah, they're looking, they're they're looking good.

00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.519
So I like I like how they're playing.

00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.320
Of course, they gotta add to the roster and whatnot.

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:24.880
But um, yeah, I love I love the energy that they're they're they're playing with.

00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.039
Jalen Green will be back.

00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:29.280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.480
Hopefully sooner than later, but so sad, he played one game.

00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:36.079
Yeah, he did great though.

00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.199
So it has he has potential for we saw it.

00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:41.840
Yep, I think it'll be a but yeah, but good, good fit.

00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:55.199
He's got a lot of upside still developing, so you know, Houston was down on him because you know it was in his first big playoff spot, didn't live up to what you know they needed at the time, but he's got a lot a lot ahead of him.

00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.960
Yeah, he's so young, he'll he'll be fine, yeah, for sure.

00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.559
Hey, fantasy time, our favorite time.

00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:07.119
Listen, y'all.

00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.719
It's a three-horse race, three.

00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:12.159
Start losing, please.

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.199
Cleve, just make it easier on the show.

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:16.320
I'm done losing.

00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.440
This week's been losing, no more, no, not no more losing out of me.

00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:22.719
You can start losing, though.

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:30.000
I'll allow that, but not I'm stressed because I don't know if I should start Flaggle Lamar next week, man.

00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.519
I'm gonna work it because I'm like Lamar plays Cleveland.

00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.639
I don't know how Cleveland's gonna play, right?

00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.280
Who should I wonder who should I start?

00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:43.519
Because Joe Flaggle been on his heater the whole the whole time he's been with Cincinnati.

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.719
Yeah, I mean it's to win a game.

00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.280
But I saw that had Flacco on the band, that's the game.

00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.960
It was when they were playing the Steelers, and he he had like 39 points.

00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.760
Like, so that's that's my worry about St.

00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:56.480
Lamar.

00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:02.960
But yeah, man, you know, mixed bag with all my teams, you know, four and six in one league.

00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.159
It's that one, nah.

00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:05.360
Yeah, I don't even want to talk about it.

00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.079
No, we we ain't worried about one league and nah.

00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.400
No, we we talking about pick and pros league.

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.920
We ain't worried about all these random, we ain't worried about all these random leagues.

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.480
Yeah, we're gonna try to have my name on it anymore.

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.000
What are you doing right here?

00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:18.800
This league, right?

00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:25.119
Right here, uh right here, uh Garrett Wilson um needs to be investigated.

00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.639
I yeah, just everyone's like he's hurt.

00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:29.920
Could have fooled me.

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.159
He'd been playing like he's been hurt the whole season.

00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.760
Anyway, uh yeah, it's just it's bad.

00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:37.039
It's bad.

00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.199
When I stop losing, that's mine.

00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:40.239
I know.

00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:42.159
Oh, yep, there you go.

00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:51.679
I just need them to turn up for the stretch run.

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.840
Cause yeah, it's scary.

00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:56.480
We'll see.

00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:57.599
We'll see what happens.

00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.760
Yeah, I just don't have any receiver help.

00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.360
I just need Lamar and Derrick Henry to show up every week, and that's my only help at this point.

00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:06.000
So yeah.

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.920
Yeah, I'm happy I got rid of him.

00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.639
Yeah, so yeah, I'm just chilling, you know.

00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:22.559
Um I'm got clinched, clinched for the playoffs, and just kind of kind of waiting for that to come around, waiting for the real season to come around.

00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.519
So yeah, I I just hate to be this late in the season and not know if I'm gonna be in the playoffs.

00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.280
So that would that would be a little stressful, but uh, you know, thank you.

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.239
I don't have to worry about that kind of stress right now.

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.039
Listen, man, sometimes you gotta come in on a hot streak.

00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.320
That's that's how uh coming with all the momentum.

00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:40.880
You feel me?

00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.800
Got a team rest on their laurels, you end up like the Panthers, you know, you get stunned.

00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:45.519
Right.

00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.280
I'm just saying that's a good thing.

00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:51.039
Uh huh.

00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:52.559
Sometimes you gotta come in with the momentum.

00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.320
That's what happened to me last year by the league.

00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.639
Like, I literally started the season horribly, got some momentum, ended up third.

00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.079
You know, I went on a Cinderella room, like it was it was it was nice.

00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.159
So I'm just saying, I'm just saying it's possible, it's possible.

00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.880
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:13.599
Yeah, playoffs start week 14.

00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.679
So we're going into week 11.

00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:28.000
So uh yeah, three three more weeks of the regular season, and then the uh uh bottom playoff teams will play week 14 to see who can make it into the quarterfinals.

00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:29.280
So yeah.

00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.199
Don't look at us and say bottom playoff teams.

00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:34.880
Like that that's not a little shady, Derek.

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.480
There's no reason I agree.

00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.039
Like, we all yeah, yeah, we'll be fine.

00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:42.719
We will be okay.

00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:50.880
I was like, uh, I still got my bye coming up too, so yeah, it's good.

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:52.880
Man, good times, man.

00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:54.960
Don't I play you the end of the season?

00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.519
Oh no, oh no, no, no, I gotta clinch.

00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:00.880
I gotta clinch it the next two weeks.

00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:02.960
I got chilling.

00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:04.960
I might I I might throw you a ball, man.

00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:05.840
I'll have everything clear.

00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:10.559
I might not even submit a lineup, man.

00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:17.119
I might just you know, because then you're gonna be like, oh well, dude, I ain't even set the lineup.

00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.800
Then if I beat you in the playoffs, it's gonna be like I even set the lineup that week.

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.079
You know, I actually made I actually got you in there.

00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:25.519
So listen, don't do that.

00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:26.400
Listen, listen.

00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:28.480
Everything has to be earned in this league.

00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:29.679
Everything.

00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.119
All right, yes, yes.

00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:36.159
Oh man, funny.

00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:37.440
Cool.

00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.159
Well, uh, yeah, I think that's everything.

00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.679
Got got any anything else, or we are we getting out of here?

00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:45.280
I'm good.

00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.280
I said everything I needed to.

00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.800
All right, I didn't um yeah, Panthers.

00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:53.840
At least Kyler could throw me.

00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:54.800
That's the only thing I'm gonna say.

00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.960
Panthers play Panthers play Falcons.

00:40:59.039 --> 00:40:59.840
Is that this week?

00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.199
You play Atlanta, and then we play the 49ers on Monday night.

00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:04.000
Oh, yeah.

00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:05.760
In Atlanta.

00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.760
So what time's the game?

00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:08.719
That's the key.

00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.079
You know it's 1 p.m., man.

00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:10.960
You know it's 1 p.m.

00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:12.400
This is the Carolina Panthers.

00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.719
Well, you got a shot.

00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.800
You got a shot because the Falcons, they're a much different team in prime time.

00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:19.679
I know.

00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.280
Oh, yeah, you were you and Diego talked about that for sure.

00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.000
Because like yeah, prime time Falcons, yeah.

00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.800
I thought the 9 30 Falcons looked like they look like something.

00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:34.320
Yeah, yeah, but no, Sunday night, Monday night, good god.

00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:42.400
Bijan is running crazy and Michael's throwing the ball all over the place, but yeah, one o'clock, they are not the same team.

00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.599
So but uh, but but they do have they did get beating.

00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:53.119
They they might make an exception, they might go to bed early um night night before this game.

00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:54.000
So we'll see.

00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.760
Please are uh race.

00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:04.960
You going to to the bay?

00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:05.920
The Cardinals?

00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:07.599
Yeah, they're going to the 40s.

00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:08.960
No, the 49ers are here.

00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:09.840
Oh, it's here.

00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:10.480
Ooh, okay.

00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.920
All right, happens, and then the Lions play the Eagles.

00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:17.920
Oh, that's gonna be good.

00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.719
Oh, is that Sunday night or Monday night?

00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.960
I think it's Sunday.

00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:24.079
I don't think it's Sunday night.

00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:26.880
It is Sunday night, yeah.

00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.199
Lions are yeah, it's Sunday at 6 20 p.m.

00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.960
Oh my oh that's gonna be a quick comment about the lions.

00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.280
Dan Campbell keep calling the plays, man.

00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.559
King calling the plays James and Williams finally had a good game.

00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.639
Oh my god, so long, Jamal.

00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:55.519
Dan Campbell, you know, we everybody thought it was a chicken and egg situation.

00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.400
It's two chickens in there, two people doing their thing.

00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.280
So the man, he is the man.

00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:02.400
He is, yeah.

00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:03.840
Great week of full.

00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:07.360
Yeah, great week.

00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:08.639
All right, all right.

00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:10.400
Well, we'll get on out of here.

00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.239
Guess we'll see y'all next week.

00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:13.199
Until then.