Feb. 6, 2026

Paying QBs Ruin the NFL? 🤯 | Spygate Disqualifies 1st Ballot | Pain Points Ep. 14

Paying QBs Ruin the NFL? 🤯 | Spygate Disqualifies 1st Ballot | Pain Points Ep. 14

Super Bowl 60 is officially set — and we break down EVERYTHING you need to know. This week on Pain Points, we dive into the biggest stories in sports: 🏈 Seahawks vs Patriots — full Super Bowl 60 preview & predictions 💰 Is the new NFL trend NOT paying quarterbacks big money? (Top 10 highest paid QBs aren’t even close to the Super Bowl…) 🏆 Should Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft be first-ballot Hall of Famers? (We disagree 👀) 📋 Which new NFL head coaches will succeed next s...

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Season 1

Super Bowl 60 is officially set — and we break down EVERYTHING you need to know.

This week on Pain Points, we dive into the biggest stories in sports:

🏈 Seahawks vs Patriots — full Super Bowl 60 preview & predictions
 💰 Is the new NFL trend NOT paying quarterbacks big money? (Top 10 highest paid QBs aren’t even close to the Super Bowl…)
 🏆 Should Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft be first-ballot Hall of Famers? (We disagree 👀)
 📋 Which new NFL head coaches will succeed next season?
 🏀 Did LeBron really deserve an All-Star spot?
 🎯 Plus: our official Super Bowl picks… and one of us is completely on an island

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00:00 - Spygate And Hall Of Fame Standards

00:37 - Show Kickoff And Agenda

00:54 - Sam Darnold’s Redemption And QB Value

08:20 - Paying QBs Versus Building Rosters

16:43 - Vikings, Geno, And System Quarterbacks

27:32 - Patriots, Voter Backlash, And Dynasty Fears

33:20 - First-Ballot Debate For Belichick And Kraft

44:10 - Brady’s Legacy And Eligibility Clock

48:12 - Coaching Carousel: Ravens, Chiefs, Giants

50:00 - Correction: This timestamp must be within duration

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First ballot is a certain, you know, that um that that's a certain standard.

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Dude, it's one of the biggest cheating scandals in the history of sports.

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So it was they they burned the tapes.

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They lost draft picks.

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Like it did this wasn't like this wasn't a little thing.

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Like they literally set the tapes on fire.

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So there would not be now today some big so Brianna wouldn't have some big story and package on this and dig it up and go, oh, this is all the stuff that happened.

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Like they burned the footage.

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All right.

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Another fantastic episode of Plain Plan is happening right now, and we have a lot to talk about.

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We're gonna talk about the NFL, we're gonna talk about the NBA, we're gonna go through our super picks, and we're gonna talk about the Super Bowl.

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So I'm very excited.

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So let's kick it off right now.

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I'm so excited.

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Sam Darnold.

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Yeah, your guy.

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Caroline, didn't he?

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Didn't he used to play for the Panthers?

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He did.

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And he did.

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Now again, as a Panthers fan, right?

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Everybody do a buyer's report, you know, because everybody has like high side being 2020.

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But in that time period, I want everybody to remember that Frank Reich was that coach, right?

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Have we seen him in the league since then?

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Matt really and Frank Reich were his coaches and Steve Wils.

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Have we seen either of them in the league in a prominent role since they've left?

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No.

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So I will say, Sam Darnold, you are having a phenomenal year.

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I'm not hating.

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You proved me wrong in the biggest game of your life.

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You went toe-to-toe with a guy who I think should win MVP and basically responded every single time your team needed to drive because your defense did not perform to snuff to reek woollen.

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My god, like if that game ended differently after that targeting penalty, it would be bad for him.

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It would get really bad for him.

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But I honestly think that Sam is a test of, I just like that he proved me wrong.

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Now, as a Panthers fan, you know, obviously it sucks.

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But again, there's a Clint Kubiac, there's a JSN, there's a solid offensive line, there's Kenneth Walker, there's a there's a great defense who didn't play up to par, but when they needed to make plays, they made plays.

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Panthers didn't necessarily have that, so we don't have any buyer's remorse.

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I'm just happy for them, but I'm also more happy for you that your theory all year, your hot take of buying low on quarterbacks, you were proven right.

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So, you know, take your victory lap.

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This is the only victory lap you got since you know ultimately the Rams didn't go to the Super Bowl.

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But hey, enjoy your victory lap, Darren.

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True, but in true fashion, I was the most right.

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So that's all I care about.

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You know, the Rams got you know closer than anybody else.

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Uh, so I was the most right.

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So that's all that ultimately matters.

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Um, but in terms of um the you know, buy low theory, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, that's just the way the way it is now.

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Um, there's so much parity.

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You can't afford to pay a quarterback, you know, half of the salary.

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I mean, you've got to have strong defense, you have to have other pieces.

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And if you're paying your quarterback 60, it was going to be 70 million soon.

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Um, you just can't do it.

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I saw a graphic recently, um, I forget the show, but it showed like the top 10 quarterbacks salary-wise.

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And of course, you know, none of them, you know, um are in the Super Bowl.

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So paying all that money, but what what are you getting?

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So I think that's something that you have to look at as you know, you're making predictions for the future, who's gonna make it, strength of schedule, uh, and you know, that that quarterback can't give the quarterback all the money.

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And the one thing I will say is that the thing, I just feel like it was a perfect combination for that team.

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Because I know again, everybody.

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I honestly don't know what people were seeing with Geno Smith.

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I thought he was good, decent.

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I didn't think that he's like a superstar who's gonna like elevate this team.

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I thought, like, you know, this is a great serviceable story.

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But again, you know, when you go from bus to team to team to backup, to now you're in a starting role because JJ McCarthy gets hurt.

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And again, the Vikings, and seeing that that's why Questy got fired, that's where I'm like the Vikings really should have just ran it back.

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Like, that's where I'm looking at this because they could have had a Seattle story because they have Justin Jefferson, they have KOC, like they have all this stuff, but because again, they got figured out by the Rams, too again, the Rams are a perennial playoff team, like they're going to go on a deep run in the playoffs every single year.

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So I that's why I'm like, I don't know if like him getting figured out by the Rams in the last game is the reason why you're like, okay, he needs to go, and we're gonna roll the dice on a quarterback.

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Basically, set our franchise back two or three years, and now you're trying to compete in an NFC North that now has the Chicago Bears, and you're still gonna have to deal with Detroit and Green Bay.

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Like, this was that's where I'm like, as a Panthers fan, I'm like, look, it took us a minute to even like get out of like the stuff with Sam with Baker, and I understand that that was bad, but as a Vikings fan, the immediate moment of like, oh, we had the formula, and then we just let it go, and now we're seeing what this formula and this for that this formula could potentially win a Super Bowl, that's where I would have more by a remorse.

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But I do think that yet again, Sam is Sam showed me something on versus the Rams.

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I'm not gonna lie.

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I was I did not see that coming.

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I did not see that coming at all.

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And I was I was pleasantly surprised.

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So as Lamar Jackson fan, I am hurt because if we get there's a Sam Darnold Super Bowl MVP before Lamar even touches his touches the Super Bowl.

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I just just understand it's gonna be a real rough day for me.

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I'll be okay.

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A real rough day.

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Yeah, that that will be rough for you.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I mean, uh I'm still not sold on Sam Darnold.

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I just I'm sorry.

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I'm just I'm just not.

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I don't know what he did in that game.

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That was so spectacular.

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I think it's it's it's similar to the Eagles, you know.

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Wow.

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I think you could put about 20 quarterbacks in that situation, and they do the same thing.

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And so if I'm Minnesota, I don't know if I necessarily have buyer's remorse.

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I mean, I get it on the face because he, you know, they lost what, two, three games last year.

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Um, and then you just automatically say, hey, with the defense and with those pieces, they're running back.

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But with Minnesota, I think they just got too caught up in nine, you know.

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Just go ahead and put put somebody else, put another plug and play, quarterback in there, and you'll be just fine.

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Uh, so you know, I I wouldn't worry too much about buyers remorse with Darnold.

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Uh, I think I don't know.

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I just I I I think you can plug a lot of people there.

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I think it's a great situation in Seattle.

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And I'm not saying they should go with someone else.

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I think two things can be true.

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You know, I think they've got the perfect system, he's the perfect person to plug in there as long as he's not making over a certain amount.

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And great, you know, keep running with that, but I don't think he's all of a sudden, you know, become this great quarterback.

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I think he's just someone that won't crash the Porsche.

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Basically, just just keep keep it on the road, don't go above third gear.

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Basically, the opposite of CJ Stroud, like the anti-CJ Shroud, essentially.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, great, yes, yes.

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Great comparison.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.

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I love that.

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Just when we need you, just be awesome.

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And then when we don't need you, just be quiet.

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Like that's yeah, that's that's kind of how they won all their playoff games because it was again Kenneth Walker in the defense took more of the lead in the first game, and then it was just Sam Sam, be great.

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We need you to be great in this one moment now.

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We'll see next what they do versus the Pats, which the Patriots.

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There's a lot going on with them.

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On to the Patriots.

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Real interesting stuff happening out there, y'all.

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Because uh I you know there's a thing, one of my favorite TV shows talks about this thing called Love Equivalent Exchange, right?

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It's an anime, it's called Full Male Alchemist, right?

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It's basically like you can't get something in life without something bad happening.

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I fear that with the NFL Hall of Fame voters, right?

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We might get a second dynasty out of pure spite just because just because they didn't let Robert and Bill in the Hall of Fame.

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I am very worried about that.

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Now, I think the pet Patriots in this game, they're gonna have to force turnovers for sure.

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Ray May's gonna have to be better.

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Like, there's no way you can have 80 yards versus Seattle and think and think, oh yeah, we're gonna win this game.

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So that's where I'm kind of at with it.

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But I'm scared now because I'm like, hold on, there's something going on where like your owner and the coach are gonna make the Hall of Fame first ballot after having won the greatest narrative ever.

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Now, next year is the real one for me where I get a little scared.

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Because I'm like, if they say Tom Brady isn't a Hall of Famer because of the flank eight, it I it's that's bad.

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That's my concern.

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That is my concern, which is why I'm so worried that now the Patriots are like, you know what?

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Out of pure revenge for this, we're gonna start another dynasty and prove prove that we can do this again without all the cheating.

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And that concerns me.

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I I was like, oh yeah, Seattle's the obvious matchup here, but after this, after the whole Hall of Fame thing, I'm like, hold on, this could this could get a little interesting, yeah.

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It it can.

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Um so okay, so what what are y'all's take on Belichick and now craft not being first ballot Hall of Famers?

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I think it's really odd.

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Okay, it's odd.

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It doesn't make sense to me.

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Okay.

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I'm sorry, like the way that the entire during the entire Patriots run, everybody gets said, oh, the Patriots, they're the gold standard, you know, the Patriot way.

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For we heard this best for 20-something years, almost my entire life on this play-doh, right?

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I have heard about the Patriot way.

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I've seen documentary after documentary, show after show, interview after interview about the Patriot way.

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What does it mean to be a Patriot, right?

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So, and again, hearing about how much of a story Bill Belichick is, how Robert Kraft like turned this team around in the 80s and 90s after he bought him, like how much he wanted to invest in Gillette Stadium, like all this stuff, right?

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And now, all of a sudden, because they cheated, and this mind you this is after all the cheating, and you know, they win three more Super Bowls.

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So, after all of that, y'all are still praising them and being like, Oh, this is the greatest team, this is the greatest dynasty we've seen in sports.

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This is the entire media landscape.

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So now, all of a sudden, when it's time to be like, hey, let's honor these people, we're not gonna do it because of the cheating, even though though during the second half of the dynasty, when and again, the cheating happened during the whole dry spell thing, and then that first Super Bowl versus Seattle, right?

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So they still the the flake gate was part of the part of the second dynasty, right?

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Yeah, even still if you felt like you punished that punished them, you know, with the whole suspensions and fines and stuff, right?

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I just think it's odd, because to be fair, with the NFL Hall of Fame, if we look up some people and their histories, it's not necessarily the greatest.

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So that's where I'm kind of at with it, where I'm like, ah, if you see certain names of people that are Hall of Famers in the NFL, and you're like, hey, this guy's a Hall of Famer, but these guys are, and again, caping far be it for me to cape for Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick.

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Like, I hated watching the Patriots for a couple years, but it comes to a point where you have to respect what they put out on the field time and time again.

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Now, again, my concern now is Tom Brady won't be a first battle hall of famer, and that's where I'm like, okay, I can understand the coach, I can understand the owner if you feel like you want to punish the organization, but the player who didn't necessarily have anything to do with this, if next year Tom Brady's not first ballot, I'm gonna be irritated.

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I'm so sorry.

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That doesn't make any sense.

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Yeah, I think I think Brady will uh be first ballot, it'll be very interesting.

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I think now the stage is set, so we'll all be waiting to see what happens with that.

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Um, I personally didn't have a problem with craft or um Belichick, especially Belichick.

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Um, you know, not being first ballot, I mean they're going to be Hall of Famer.

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So if it's okay, are they gonna be Hall of Famer or not?

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Okay, yeah, need to be Hall of Famer.

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But first ballot is a certain, you know, that um that that's a certain standard.

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And dude, it's one of the biggest cheating scandals in the history of the sports.

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So it was they they burned the tapes.

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Like, this is real, like the NFL burned the tapes.

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Um, and the fact that dude, and you out of all people, ought to be uh happy and fine with it because your Panthers might have won the freaking Super Bowl.

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Like you lost to the Patriots, and that was right in the middle of Spy Gate.

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Like, what one guys on the Panthers was even, he was like, I swear they knew exactly what we were running.

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Like, so I mean, that's a pretty pretty big deal, man.

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I wasn't there for the first half, and I was like five, I was like from like five to like 12 when like spine game was really like happening.

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So I wasn't like I wasn't all the way there, there, but yeah.

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Like this was a this big deal.

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But even this, but that's what I'm saying.

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Despite the cheating, the media was still hyping them as the greatest American dynasty against sports.

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Like, that's my thing.

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If you would have said, at least with baseball, they'll at least say, Oh, the steroid era was bad, uh, the records reduced, we don't like this.

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Like, at least they said it and we're honest about the era in like the late 90s and like early 2000s.

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At least they like said that about the era.

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There wasn't this still, like, oh, we would still respect and revere the Patriots, is what they are.

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We're still putting Bill Belichick's like playbooks and all of his stuff in the hall of fame.

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We're still putting like all this stuff in the hall of fame.

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Like, that's my issue.

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It would be different.

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I I I I I get what you're saying, and that was more NFL because NFL and Hall of Fame are kind of separate in entities, right?

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The NFL they didn't want the attention to be on that, so they wanted it to go.

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Hell, that that's why they burned the tapes.

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Like, they literally set the tapes on fire so there would not be now today, some big so Brianna wouldn't have some big story and package on this and dig it up and go, Oh, this is all the stuff that happened.

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Like, they burned the footage to prevent it from happening.

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So they the NFL did not want that.

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I'll give you a great comparison, all right.

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In NBA and the referee, uh Don Don Donahi, Tim Donahi, or whatever, that was like federal charges, right?

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Like, when you sit down and look at it, that was a pretty big freaking deal.

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Like, like the the the Lakers probably won that championship because that ref was crooked and with the mob, right?

00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:13.600
Yeah, that's crazy.

00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:19.840
But again, they discovered the the NBA, they were like, nothing to see here.

00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:21.279
That was a rogue ref.

00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:27.759
Like, they just wanted that to go away, like stop talking about it, sweep it under the rug, like be quiet.

00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:29.919
So I think they still don't talk about the refs.

00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:37.759
No, they don't, like, and that's you know, I mean, so I think it was the league just like, hey, hush, hush, quiet, nothing to see here.

00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:38.559
This is it.

00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:49.679
But the hall of fame was like, okay, wait a minute, yeah, you're great and all, but your penalty is gonna be you're not gonna be first ballot because that was a pretty freaking big deal.

00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:51.120
Okay, see your point.

00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:56.960
I like now, and I think because uh I needed to see that in perspective because this is younger be, so I got it.

00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:57.679
Appreciate you.

00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:03.759
Yeah, I was like, has knowledge what everything was created.

00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:04.720
Oh, for sure.

00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:23.119
That's just living, and and I'm I'm shocked that there's not many folks because you know, we're we're talking about this a few days after, so a lot of people, you know, a lot of talking heads, people, you know, huge followings have addressed this, and I really haven't seen many people, you know, with this tape.

00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.079
Most people are outraged, shocked, should have been hall of fame.

00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.240
You know, they're acting, you know, um like it's the worst thing ever.

00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:40.000
And I'm like, man, man, we really, if we go back and look at what happened, like that that was a that was a big deal.

00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:48.400
You know, I forget about that though, because I was like very, very cool, you know, like I'm only 19, so yeah, yeah.

00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:49.839
So but we'll see next year.

00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:55.920
But I'm very curious to see with with Brady if if they yeah, that's that's gonna be.

00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.359
I don't I listen, listen.

00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:06.079
I the way that old that old heads are about Michael Jordan, I am that way about Tom Brady.

00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:07.359
I'm so serious.

00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:16.400
I I need him to make the hall of fame in like just just so no nothing crazy happens because I don't know if the world can be able to handle that.

00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:18.319
Like, that's that's that's too much.

00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:23.039
There's too all this crazy stuff going on, and then all of a sudden we find out next year Tom Brady make the hall of fame.

00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.880
Hey, let's let's keep this planet more together than it already is.

00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:27.920
Just put him in the hall of fame.

00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:29.839
So is he eligible next year?

00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:35.200
He's eligible next year because he grabbed he I think it was it's either next year or 2028.

00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:36.880
When did he return?

00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:38.079
Was it 23?

00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:40.720
Was last year 23 or 22?

00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:43.200
Yeah, it would be cool.

00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:44.240
I hope it is next year.

00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:46.400
That would be cool for all of them to go in together.

00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:52.400
Yeah, we'll make a particular warm-hearted thing, just do it all at one time.

00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:55.599
Just knock it out, yeah.

00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:56.799
Let's not drag this out.

00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:03.519
No, the cowboys era you had every year, it was like, oh, Aikman this year, then Emmett, then you know, it was somebody every year.

00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:05.680
So now let's just do it all at one time.

00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:06.400
Just get it over.

00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:10.640
Last year, all y'all going in.

00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:12.720
Well, we don't want any more controversy.

00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:13.279
Right.

00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:17.759
All right, well, speaking of coaches, we're gonna move along to the best coach.

00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:25.279
All right, after the staff he assembled in Baltimore, I am very excited for Jesse Mentor.

00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:34.799
I am very excited for the Ravens returning to defensive football, Lamar Jackson having a Ben Johnson disciple, and Declan Doyle, very excited.

00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:37.200
Anthony Weaver being being retained.

00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:38.400
I'm very happy.

00:19:38.559 --> 00:20:10.880
The one thing I am worried about is the fact that Declan Doyle and Lamar are the same age, and that's the little concerning thing because I'm like, if you learn from Ben Johnson, I hope that there's like like the play calling is more modern, there's about there's a good balance between running the ball, but uh my worry is that like they're gonna give up on Derrick Henry too soon throughout the season because one thing you know about Ben Johnson is he has the two-back system, and they also hired the run game coordinator from Atlanta, so they have B.

00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.559
John Robinson, Tyler Algier.

00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:14.000
You know, the maddening thing with B.

00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:19.920
John Robinson and Tyler Algier is that, like, okay, you can give the ball to Bijan, but they're like, okay, Tyler, come on and cook.

00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.319
And like, you have Derrick Henry and Keaton Mitchell.

00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:29.119
Keaton has shown flashes, but then you still have like probably a first belt Hall of Fame running back loyal.

00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.440
We don't know who's first belt anymore, ironically.

00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:36.880
But like, I do think that Derrick Henry, like, when is the buff gonna stop eventually?

00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:44.000
So that's where what I worry about is if he starts off slow next season, they're gonna go away from him, and that could really affect their season.

00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:49.039
Now, again, their defense will be improved, so I hope that that you know helps balance it out.

00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:52.480
But I'm excited for Jesse Mansure in Baltimore.

00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.720
I would also say there's another coach I'm really excited for.

00:20:58.799 --> 00:20:59.599
Harbaugh?

00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:17.920
Listen, Harbaugh, don't give me start like hiring Matt Nagy at like just at the end, and it's like, okay, like I don't I don't know what special things he's gonna do with that offense.

00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:33.680
And like, we've seen the Chiefs offense the past four years, and then you saw the Chiefs hire back the enemy, which is kind of a sign that like they kind of saw how the offense was over the past few Super Bowl runs and been like, hey, it's like it's a hit the same.

00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:35.759
We we need something, we need something.

00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:59.519
So yeah, I think, man, the Harbaugh, and I mean, and again, I know some of my biggest takes was kind of going against Harbaugh, but I've always felt he was a good coach, never had anything against Harbaugh, but just for some reason, man, he's become like the Vince Lombardi since getting fired from Baltimore.

00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:05.440
Everybody clamoring after him and whatnot, and I just don't get it.

00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:14.240
And then taking the Giants, the Giants job, I mean, yeah, man, I I don't see them having uh a great year.

00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:52.319
Maybe they gain a game or so, but yeah, I know that's not not really the question, but uh thing is you got one magical Joe Flacco run in Ray Lewis's last hurrah, and that's that's your entire playoffs, like your big hurrah throughout the time because you got slapped around by the Patriots, and then you got gifted one of the most talented quarterbacks of this generation, and you're known for like not managing the game well, blown fourth quarter leads, not showing up in the playoffs, and forgetting your identity like during the entirety tenure that you had Lamar, and like all of a sudden you're going to coach, go and coach a very young team in one of the better divisions in the NFL.

00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:57.039
Because as far as it's kept, the Eagles are gonna want to new out of OC to be better.

00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:59.599
Yeah, the Eagles have to be better on offense next year.

00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:01.920
Like, there's no way it can be as bad as it was last year.

00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:06.640
Jane Daniels, if it gets worse than what it was last year, oh Siriana gotta go.

00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:12.480
But anyway, Jaden Daniels is gonna be back healthy, and we're gonna see what Washington does.

00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:16.160
Dallas, I don't know, Dallas is either good or mid.

00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:20.559
Like this, this is like, but either way, Dallas could be competitive next year.

00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.319
It really just depends on, you know.

00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:33.599
I because again, Eagles fans are freaking out because their defensive their defensive coordinator like left and went to the one of their like bigger like defensive coaches is now the defensive coordinator for the Cowboys.

00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.000
So hopefully Christian Parker can turn that around.

00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:38.559
I that's uh no, man.

00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:44.240
You chose a very competitive division, you chose the worst team that's gonna require more of a rebuild, and you're an older gentleman.

00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:48.480
Like, I don't understand how this is gonna I don't understand how this is gonna work.

00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.559
Uh and again, I don't know why Harbaugh all of a sudden is like, oh, he's a great coach.

00:23:52.640 --> 00:24:02.480
It's like I know he's been carried by talent, he's been carried by having like a magical Super Bowl run, and then one of the greatest talents we've ever seen play football.

00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.799
Yeah, you still couldn't get over the hump with him.

00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.920
So it's like Ray Lewis coached that team.

00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:17.359
Um like there was known, like the fact that during the entire season we saw more and more reports coming out about players not rocking with you.

00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:19.759
What do you think a young team's gonna do, man?

00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:24.880
Like, this is a team that has continuity, like like has the same players year after year after year.

00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:31.359
Yeah, what do you think a young team's gonna do with I don't know, man, but we're coaches or y'all thinking that we'll have good seasons.

00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:35.759
Let me let me get off this hard box later because I don't I don't want to do them too, man.

00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:44.640
But uh yeah, I mean, I I think uh Joe Brady in in Buffalo, I think they have a they have a a good year.

00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:54.720
Um again, the the offense is is uh uh they go they've got the new stadium, they'll have a big buzz, they'll have a ton of prime time games, like they always do.

00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:56.400
Yeah, for for sure.

00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:58.799
So um not sure about the schedule.

00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:02.240
So that will be the only question mark they did make the playoffs.

00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.400
So that'll make the schedule a little tough.

00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:08.880
But you got the Jets um twice a year, so that that helps.

00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.079
So those are hopefully a couple of a couple of wins.

00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:12.559
Yes.

00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.599
Um Dolphins, we'll see where where they are.

00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:30.480
But um, yeah, I think I think Joe Joe Brady typically in in that case through history, when you have a team that's knocking on the door, knocking on the door, and you make a coaching change, and it's a coach that's internal, that's already on the staff.

00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.160
Normally, at least that very next year, they have a big year.

00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:35.440
They typically do.

00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:43.119
Now, then it might take a dive after that, but everybody's gonna be motivated, especially Josh Allen, to really, really do well.

00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.400
They're they're really close, uh, Allen and Brady.

00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:51.599
So I think at least next year, they have a good year, and then we'll see where it goes from there.

00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:53.680
Yeah, one can hope.

00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:55.920
Yeah, no, no hits, Josh.

00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:56.880
I'm not gonna lie.

00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.119
Ado cry that though, I need like Super Bowl tiers next year, Josh.

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:07.599
If this was super bowl tiers at the podium, bro, like we did it, I fucking got over the hub.

00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.920
Uh listen, I'll be so happy.

00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.799
Yeah, and I know that Josh Allen take was showing that I was hating.

00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.119
Trust, there is not a hate bone in my body for him.

00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:16.799
I think he is a great quarterback.

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:23.119
He just happens to run up versus my my favorite player to possibly ever play the sport.

00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:24.720
I'll all respect to Josh.

00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.240
I want you to get a ring, bro.

00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:32.559
I just want one of y'all to get a ring because now Sam Darnold might get one, so it's it's the world's messed up right now.

00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.920
But man, the AFC is gonna be so brutal next year.

00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.000
I mean, you got Denver that's gonna be back.

00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.319
Just just the the defenses alone, yeah.

00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:46.880
You got Denver, you've got Houston, you know what I mean?

00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:54.880
Man, New England will be back, like it's it's gonna be the Kansas City reloads in this offseason, Kansas City, exactly.

00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:56.960
Kansas City Kelsey retires.

00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.160
Uh, yeah, that's Baltimore.

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:10.480
I I don't know, and then if Cincy somehow gets there, like Joe Burrow has a healthy year or something, like that's where I'm like, I don't know.

00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:22.240
Like, it's I really think that the NFC is more like the team conference, but now that the defenses have started to catch up on the AFC, that's where I'm like, okay, this could get this can get serious.

00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:25.839
Man, dang, he makes a lot of money though.

00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:32.079
I don't know how to get around it, but I just had this vision because they seem like they'd have a lot of salary cap room.

00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.920
Well, man, if if Houston could somehow get Burrow.

00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:44.319
I mean, there it's the same situation because they're gonna have to give Will Anderson the farm.

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.680
Like, it's like yeah, they have to pay Will Anderson.

00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:55.599
It if they could, if Joe Bro Joe was like, Hey, I take less money and I just do it, I that would be the only way.

00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.319
And oh, I don't want him in Houston.

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.759
Oh, that's because that's what people don't realize.

00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.920
That that's what Brady did, and that's what some of these QBs need to get smarter.

00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:23.519
That's kind of what Mahomes is doing, because what Mahomes does is he's signing these multi-multi, he's signing these 10-year deals, and then they're giving him a big signing bonus every year and kind of pushing the cap number down, so he's still getting his money, but they're just working some cap magic.

00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:32.799
Some of these other teams and QBs need to do that because, like, just think of how good Dallas would be if Dak was making 20 million less, right?

00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.799
Still making you still making 40 million, you know, you're still making money.

00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:45.839
But if it could just somehow work that to where not even bank account take less, but take less annually, right?

00:28:46.000 --> 00:29:04.720
And get more in the signing bonus and just structure it around differently, that that's how they were able to have you know the pieces around Brady for as long as they did, have the defenses there, and one of these days, whatever other quarterback gets hip to that, that could be your next team that that runs it.

00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:14.400
Mahomes and them are kind of doing that, but man, if they could ever do that with any of these other teams that have talent, you know, yeah, yeah.

00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.440
Yeah, but I don't want Del Burrow anywhere on our Houston team, bro.

00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.680
I'll be Lamar ain't never getting the ring if that happens.

00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:24.400
Oh my god.

00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:30.079
Yeah, how'd he take Del?

00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:36.720
Oh, oh no, oh no, no, uh uh well best topic ever.

00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:38.079
Oh man.

00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.720
All right, LeBron.

00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.839
All right, should he be an all-star?

00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:52.640
Well, if they didn't just add Kawhi later to the to the all-star thing earlier today, I would have been like, oh no, it should have been Kawhi.

00:29:53.279 --> 00:30:03.680
But because they they added him because we needed another spot for TAB USA, because you know the world team is gonna wax us because they have like four of the five best players on the planet, you know, on their team.

00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:05.839
That's great.

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:09.039
That's that's uh yeah.

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.599
Because I don't know what we're gonna do with like Webby and Shay.

00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:13.599
Like, that's that's my kind of thing.

00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:18.960
Like we're gonna allow a team with Webby and Shay and Luca on the on a court.

00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:24.160
Like, that's it were like, hey, old guys from USA, we're by the same glory days.

00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:25.039
That's not gonna happen.

00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.480
Webby Steph Steph better be on fire.

00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:30.400
Yeah, because I don't know.

00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:35.119
Now again, look, I feel like this is one of the honorary things, you know.

00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:46.799
I'm not gonna say it's like Dirk bad where they were like giving Dirk an all-star because LeBron's been okay, but this hasn't been like an like an amazing, awe-inspiring LeBron James season.

00:30:46.960 --> 00:31:00.960
But I feel like this is the more like okay, we're giving you your nod, and then next year, when the farewell tour is really farewell tour, we're gonna get one more appearance, and then we just go, we just go let him let him bow out, let him, let him go out gracefully.

00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:08.400
And I am I say this as Lakerspay, knowing that like the reason why we don't have title expectations is because we can't defend to save our life.

00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:17.519
Like, I'm like, we got the offense where if we get a good matchup in the first round, boom, we're gonna make the we're gonna get past it, then we're gonna lose the second round.

00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.440
That's exactly what's gonna happen.

00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:24.319
So, hey, LeBron, let's let's let's figure out this retirement tour, buddy.

00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.079
Let's start wrapping it up.

00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.039
Let's start wrapping it up.

00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:31.920
Happy you're an all-star for the last time, but like let's let's start having the farewells.

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.920
You know, they gave him the honorary patch of like him being in the league for however many years.

00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.160
They're both trying to like be like, hey, we got Wemby and Shane now, bro.

00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:41.519
Let's let's get to step.

00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:42.640
Let's get to stuff.

00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.319
So I'm I'm happy for him, you know.

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.920
Shout out to shout out to my goat, but hey, it's it's time.

00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.519
It's it's it's it's time.

00:31:51.599 --> 00:32:11.119
It's let's it's down the fact that I had to bring up the whole like Dirk being an all-star, what was it like 2018, 2019, and Dirk was yeah, Dirk was getting DMP'd because Luca was showing flashes, like that's like oh, also the irony, the fact that like as soon as it becomes a Luca Doncic team, now LeBron feels like he's getting the dirt pass.

00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:12.079
That's true.

00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:12.640
That's true.

00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:14.240
But we'll see.

00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:14.799
We'll see.

00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.759
Also, um, there is news that broke in the NBA.

00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.359
James Harden just got traded to the Cleveland to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:23.839
I for Darius Garland.

00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:26.480
I don't know how to feel about that.

00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:27.839
I don't know.

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.400
So James Harden.

00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.119
So for Cleveland, was Garland the one who always had the foot injuries?

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:36.400
Always had the foot injuries.

00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.000
He has the reds, yes, yes.

00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:44.240
Okay, so so for Cleveland, that's great then, because that that totally messed them up.

00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:49.920
We wouldn't have even had to deal with the Pacers if he was able to just play last time.

00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.799
So yeah, I think that's a great move for them.

00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.039
Clippers, I don't really get it.

00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:04.319
Um, because I mean he was carrying the Clippers, he's been the best player since you yeah, some of them aren't selling like usual.

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.400
Yeah, I mean, you you can't depend on Clippers player, yeah.

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.480
I mean, he was the heart and soul.

00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:19.839
I mean, I I was very impressed and blown away and shocked at his age and size now, you know.

00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:26.079
The fact that you know he's putting in work and doing what he's doing with the Clippers.

00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:35.359
Big shout out to um to uh James Harden because I mean he's still clearly partying, but it doesn't matter, he's still putting in giving it.

00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.039
Sometimes some players don't need all the LeBron conditioning, you know.

00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:43.839
Sometimes I'm like, hey, hey, you can do it, roll out the club, drop 30.

00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.359
Like, hey, do it, so yeah, he's doing it.

00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.160
So don't get it from the Clippers standpoint.

00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:55.440
But uh for Cleveland, yeah, I love it because Garland that that injury is gonna keep popping up.

00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.839
You got two people who are injury prone, and you're trying.

00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:02.720
I love the Clippers, man.

00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:13.599
Like they literally were picking themselves up out of the basement, and they were like, Yeah, they were like getting back to like over 500, and now you're trading your best players, yeah.

00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:21.840
That's an injury pro young point guard instead of the proven guy when y'all literally were getting y'all pushed because of him.

00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.880
Like, it's uh yours only the clippers.

00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.519
I didn't even think of Garland going to the Clippers, I'm just so caught up in heart art and going there.

00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.000
But my gosh, you are a thousand percent right.

00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.920
Only the freaking clippers would do something as dumb as I understand, man.

00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.079
I'm why do y'all love B Lil' Bro so much, bro?

00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:41.119
Like, this is sad.

00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:42.320
This is sad.

00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:47.119
Like, we at least traded Luca for we at least got Luca for Anthony Davis.

00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:48.800
Like, we at least got something.

00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:55.519
You just got Darius Garland, you couldn't get a big, you couldn't get anything else, you can't get Jared Allen or Evan Mobley with that.

00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:04.800
You just got Darius Garland, no other young franchise piece, like you couldn't trade like Garland and Mobley, and then if it was James Harden, who else?

00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:13.840
James Harden and another piece of something, like they ain't never gone.

00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:22.239
Listen, remember when Kawhi came to came to LA saying, like, oh, this is title town, you know, this is this is my town now.

00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.360
LA, like, you know, I'm bringing rings here.

00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:27.280
What is what has Kawhi done?

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.760
What has what has he done since he got to LA?

00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.320
Ben Hurt, yeah, nothing.

00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.000
That's it, and and a funny couple funny moments.

00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.639
There's playoff teams with PG that are more memorable than what they were with Kawhi Letter.

00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.360
Like, what are we yeah?

00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:48.400
Clippers don't clip.

00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.880
The words of Will Smith, Clippers gonna clip, and yeah, yeah, that's that's true.

00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.480
Well, there's gonna be a lot more headlines, especially with the Super Bowl coming up.

00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.239
So we know how the NBA does.

00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.719
So real messy.

00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.519
Try to get real messy before the Super Bowl, then they get their chain stash again.

00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.159
You're gonna see Yannis go to Golden State, you're gonna see all that, man.

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:22.320
Yeah, I swear if I get that now, because the Yannis and Golden State notification would like the look of the AD one last year, was already crazy because I was so confused.

00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:26.480
That's gonna be I was I was like, this is a typo, somebody got hacked.

00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.000
We read this wrong.

00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:36.559
Yeah, now where Harden now, I don't it probably wouldn't have worked out numbers wise and whatnot, but just fantasy basketball for a second.

00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:47.679
I would have loved to see Harden back in Houston actions by by them not having their point guard for the rest of the year, and Harden could have distributed and they would have been back with KD.

00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:49.679
And there's so many storylines with that.

00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:56.239
That would have been pretty cool to see again, cap-wise, probably wouldn't have worked, but that would have been neat to just from a basketball perspective.

00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:01.039
I just think I just I don't know what the LA Clippers are doing, man.

00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.639
I just I don't get it.

00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:04.800
I don't I don't know.

00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:06.079
Beautiful stadium, though.

00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:06.800
Good gracious.

00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.000
All right, I've got to see that into it dome.

00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.519
I'm trying to like the wall with the fans where they're like, Yeah, that's that's Bree.

00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.119
Are you are are you going?

00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.840
I think I am okay.

00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.639
Because it's it's at the um intuit dome.

00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:23.199
Is she right?

00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:47.840
Oh yeah, hopefully try to figure out what's yeah, oh that'll be yeah, because this seems uh I know it's totally state of the art, all the technology with the Microsoft, you know, uh owner being you know behind it and all of that, and that wall, and oh man, yeah, it just seems like the most amazing place to see a game.

00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.239
So yeah, that looks amazing.

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:52.960
We didn't get your take.

00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:54.800
Do you think LeBron should be an all-star?

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:55.440
Yeah.

00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.199
Uh man.

00:37:57.440 --> 00:37:59.760
So okay, it's kind of layered.

00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.960
Okay, I'm I'm fine from a legacy standpoint.

00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:10.000
If you want to put him on there and not take a roster spot again, like they did with Dirk or whatever, I'm fine with that.

00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:18.800
I'm not really good with him having a spot that's taken away from somewhere else because I don't think he's an all-star from that standpoint.

00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.519
But I think it's crazy how the NBA does the all-star.

00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:31.440
Like you're basing all-stars, well, in in one breath, it's like you're basing them off of what they do the first two weeks of the season, right?

00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:49.360
Because I mean it is the it's so early, it's it's the most ridiculous thing on one hand, and then on the other hand, okay, if it's halfway through the season and you have someone that misses the first month or two of the season, how in the world is it even possible for you to be an all-star?

00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.519
Like that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:55.679
What do you base it on?

00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:01.199
Well, if you're like Nicola Jokic and then like your first game back, you dropped like a 30-point triple double.

00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.119
I think it's kind of obvious where it's like, oh, this guy's obviously an all-star.

00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:12.559
But if it's like somebody who's like, you know, on like a lower team at the Eastern Conference, and then they're like, oh, this person's an all-star.

00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:18.159
I'm like, okay, what type of buckets are they getting on this team, or if they were on like a more championship caliber team?

00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:22.639
Because if they're on a playing team, like that's where like it gets a little confusing and hectic.

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.719
So I agree with you there.

00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.199
I just I don't know, man.

00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:32.559
I hope this USA versus World Game is good and like we're not beat, we're not beating that team.

00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:33.440
I'm sorry.

00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:42.960
Like the Olympics was already scary enough, like that already put the fear in America enough where we were just like, hey, we but this gap might have might have closed a little bit.

00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:49.760
Now with with that, with the whole the way the format is, is typical.

00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.559
Um what's our commissioner?

00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.000
Sorry, commissioner's name.

00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:55.519
Oh, Adam Silver.

00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:56.639
At Adam Silver.

00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:04.480
It's typical at Adam Silver with this, to where everybody thinks it's the dumbest thing in the world and it's awful, awful, awful, awful.

00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:10.559
It's going to be a hit, and then everyone's gonna think, oh, it was great, it was great, and then gonna have to apologize.

00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:17.519
Just like the play-in and the the the um the the midseason tournament, all the things that he comes up with.

00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:27.360
Everybody thinks it's terrible, they reject it, push back, and then a year or two later, it's like, oh man, this is amazing! Yeah, of course it's gonna be great.

00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:42.000
Man, what once they get out there and start competing and the competitive juices starts going and whatnot, and you've got man USA versus the world, that is going to be a huge hit, and I do not get why everybody thinks it's not gonna be.

00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:43.199
That's gonna be great.

00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.360
I think it's just because you have a team with Wemby, Luca, and Check.

00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:49.760
Like it that's that's my concerning thing.

00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:56.159
And we're relying on a bunch of older dudes from America to basically be like, save, like, help save us and carry us.

00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.400
Okay, that's my concern.

00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:05.280
It's like it would be different if the world players had the same exchange of like older but talented players, yeah.

00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:13.119
Not the fact that it's like the young blood, it's like the MVP, like three MVP candidates, four are on one team.

00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:14.400
Like, that's where I'm at.

00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.639
That's what's concerning me.

00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.440
But and I I get what you're saying, yeah.

00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:31.760
You got all the MVPs, arguably top players on that team, but with the exception of Wemby, they're not defenders, fair, and so that could kind of be the equalizer there.

00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:36.400
And the other thing that we got on here is this can be ants time to shine.

00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:46.320
I don't know how they'll have the the the roster stock stocked up, but you don't think ants gonna be motivated to come out and step up and show them what's up?

00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.239
Like, oh man, this can be like I said, it's gonna be fine.

00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:57.679
Please give me Ant and Steph in that backcourt, and hey, that that could be the great equalizer, man.

00:41:57.840 --> 00:41:59.199
Yeah, that'll be good.

00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:06.880
So again, because again, Luca, come on, hey, as great as he is offensively.

00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.360
We we see with the Lakers, he ain't playing no D.

00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:16.719
You know, Shay, hey, love Shay, think he's Mvp this year, but it's all star game, right?

00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:22.639
I mean, Shay, Shay's he's good, but he ain't locking nobody up like that, you know what I mean?

00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:36.880
But and can, and just depending on how the rosters are, I have to see uh the whole setup, but I hope they at least have um Ant and Steph on the same roster and try to work work that out some way.

00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:37.760
I think that could be hot.

00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.320
Yeah, that'd be really cool, actually.

00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:41.840
I think everyone would love that.

00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.719
Yeah, did um did Book make it?

00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:46.320
Yeah, he's on reserve.

00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:48.239
He okay, good, good, good, good.

00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:51.039
But he's her right now, anyway.

00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:52.400
So oh, that's ah dang that.

00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:55.760
Dylan Brooks should have been on it.

00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.800
He feels clearly he's he's got 40 points, career high.

00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:01.920
Like, he's doing so good.

00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:15.360
So Dylan Brooks should have definitely been, and with this format, we really need him because again, just like I'm saying, he's that dog, they could have really used him because he would lock up, D up.

00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.599
They they could really use him, like Canadian though, so he's gonna be on the world team.

00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.719
That's why like he's gonna be with the world because he's Canadian.

00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.079
Oh dang, he is yeah, yeah, we might not.

00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:36.320
And all these great players are from Canada, like all the good ones.

00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:37.039
That's right.

00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:39.920
I was like, Yeah, no, we do.

00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:42.800
I literally knew that too.

00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:47.119
Like, I literally interviewed his trainer this year, like yes, yes.

00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:50.400
Oh man, yeah, that's funny.

00:43:50.559 --> 00:44:01.119
But he is gonna defense, but I'm like, hey, like that defense is going beyond Anthony Edwards, and then that would be a spicy moment, but I I don't uh Yeah.

00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:03.840
Man, I'm excited.

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:04.320
Yeah.

00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:07.280
It's gonna be the watch.

00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:07.840
Everyone's good.

00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:08.960
That's gonna be the talk.

00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:09.840
Oh, so great.

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.880
Oh man, oh, I gotta give Adam Silver his flowers.

00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:13.920
We were wrong again.

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:15.599
That's what everybody's gonna be saying after that.

00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:16.960
I hope so.

00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:18.000
I hope so.

00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:20.239
That's so funny.

00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:21.840
Oh my.

00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.719
Okay, let's move on.

00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:27.760
Okay, sorry, I've been seeing me lately.

00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:29.519
Every word.

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:30.079
Okay.

00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.519
Time for our Super Bowl picks because we put it off.

00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:34.320
Yeah.

00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:37.119
Who we picking?

00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:37.679
Huh?

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.519
Yeah, who are you picking?

00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.079
My gut is telling me the Seahawks has been the Seahawks all season.

00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.400
Y'all, I don't want the Hall of Fame voters to make us have another dynasty.

00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.079
Seattle, please win this.

00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.400
I need like a performance like how you had versus the 49ers.

00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:59.519
I need a classic 2013 Broncos type butt weapon.

00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:00.480
That's what I need.

00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.960
Make like Nick Eamon Wori or somebody be the Super Bowl MVP.

00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:06.320
That's what I need in my life.

00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:08.639
Because I can't deal with a Sam Darnold MVP.

00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.039
Can't can't deal with that on my conscience.

00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.280
So hey, can't listen.

00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:17.199
If Sam Darnold wins Super Bowl MVP, I'm sorry.

00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.880
Like we I don't want to have that whole Jalen Hurts discussion again.

00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:29.039
Like I don't want that to please somebody on defense get like two pick sixes so we can just wrap it up.

00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:29.519
All right.

00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:30.719
Please thank you.

00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:31.840
Seattle.

00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.239
I got Seattle by.

00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.159
I have Seattle by six.

00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:53.360
I don't think they're gonna blow him out, but I do think because I do think there's gonna be one crazy turnover from Sam Darrow that's gonna get close, and then Seattle might just their defense is gonna make a play at the end of the game to close it out.

00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.480
Okay, okay.

00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:58.079
Derek, your turn.

00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:03.199
Oh man, this is this is this is so tough.

00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:05.679
I know, I know.

00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.639
I'm I'm not I'm not that I'm just this is the Super Bowl, so okay, great.

00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:16.239
Excited about that, the food and whatnot, but uh this is not the matchup that I wanted.

00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.400
Uh so many other teams I wish were here, but this is what we've got.

00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.440
So I'm gonna go ahead and agree with C Pain.

00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.039
I'm gonna go Seattle.

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:27.679
Uh I'm gonna go Seattle by 10.

00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:28.639
Okay.

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:29.760
Yeah, yeah.

00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:33.360
Somewhat of I guess Super Bowl standards, you can say blowout.

00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:34.400
Yeah.

00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:36.880
Let's let let's go Seattle.

00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:44.480
Come on, uh, give me something to be happy about from the turn offs because the rest has just been been terrible.

00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.400
You are looking over the Rams, Derek.

00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:47.280
It's okay, it's okay.

00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.599
Listen, listen, it'll be all right.

00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:51.280
No, not so much.

00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.760
I mean, no, not not not so much.

00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:55.920
It's just more the Patriots being there, right?

00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:56.880
It's not so much.

00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.039
I'm I'm cool with the Rams not being there.

00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.719
It's just the Patriots is is more more my thing.

00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:04.239
So yeah.

00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:06.320
Interesting.

00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:07.199
Yep.

00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.519
All right, for Domus, let's see for two.

00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:13.039
Two for two.

00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:14.159
Let's do it, Bree.

00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:21.519
I've been so like back and forth in my head on like I don't know who to pick.

00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:28.239
Like great defense, great everything goes to Seahawks, but the Patriots, their last game was a little shaky.

00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:34.639
But I mean, for them to flip their whole team around and everything else, you know what I mean?

00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:39.199
Like Andrake May being so young, I'm like so.

00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:45.519
I'm gonna go with my original like gut feeling that I felt like in the beginning, and I keep going back and forth, but you know what?

00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.280
I'm gonna take the Patriots.

00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.000
Okay, I have like I don't know.

00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.239
I mean, I picked the matchup, right?

00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.159
But we'll see if I lose it, right?

00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.079
Because I've been going so back and forth.

00:47:56.320 --> 00:48:03.599
So if they lose, I've like, well, you know, I kind of also thought the Seahawks would win, so my thing is the Patriots.

00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:05.840
All right, let's be green out here for two.

00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:07.440
Yeah, we'll see.

00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:08.079
I don't know.

00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:09.280
I'm on an island.

00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.400
Yeah on the on the island with the Patriots.

00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:27.920
Look, yeah, hey picked the Chiefs last year after all three of us picked the Eagles, so you know hey, you know, there's not a good island precedent with this, but hey, you know, maybe maybe real real butt the trend.

00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:29.599
Yeah, maybe we'll see what happens.

00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:37.119
You did not Diego Avery me, Diego Abre picked the Eagles at the last show.

00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:40.960
Diego picked the Chiefs.

00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.079
I had the Eagles stuff on, I had the green.

00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:54.559
We only went to the mall to get like the most because I say you look like the most Philly person ever because you had the glasses and the blue.

00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:55.199
That's right.

00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:57.840
I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:58.159
All right.

00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.679
That was so funny, but I'm taking the underdog in this one.

00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:03.519
So we'll see.

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:04.719
All right, all right, right.

00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:18.000
You gotta break the break the uh oh not the curse, but I guess the the the the trend of whoever's on the island typically does not get the super bowl, but you could start uh start something new here.

00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:19.119
Yeah, we never know.

00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.960
I mean, probably not, but we'll see.

00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:22.079
We'll see.

00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:22.480
We'll see.

00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:23.039
You know what?

00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:24.719
I'll start projecting it.

00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.119
All right, we'll see what happens when you project stuff reasonable.

00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.920
To be fair, to be fair, for sure, for sure.

00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:40.079
Uh uh a part of me was like, Man, maybe may maybe I pick the Patriots so they can lose.

00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.920
You know, that was kind of part of the worst geeks.

00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:45.519
Like, how you name the Ravens?

00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:46.320
Yeah, yeah.

00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:48.480
Like, how you give the Ravens?

00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:55.039
It was like, I'll pick a Lamar for MVP, and I was like, that was go go left, and guess what?

00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:56.239
It did, it did.

00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:57.199
It did.

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So um too funny, too funny.

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All right, good deal, good deal, good show.

00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.280
Well, yeah, yeah, we'll be uh five days.

00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:24.079
I guess the Pro Bowl's on now, so yeah Pro Bowl Games, Pro Bowl Games, yeah, games flag football instead of Sean Taylor taking off people's heads, you know what happened.

00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.599
Yeah, Shador said, Hey, we're gonna see your guys.

00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.480
Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl QB, Shador Sanders, yes, and you're flac or Pro Bowlers.

00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:37.679
That's great.

00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:39.679
Yeah.

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Great institutions of this lovely sport.

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All right.

00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:49.840
We'll see.

00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:53.440
All right, cool.

00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.639
Well, yes, we will uh see y'all next time.

00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:58.400
See who's right, see who's wrong.

00:50:58.559 --> 00:50:59.679
Yes, until then.

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Pick them pro.